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CooksTalk Improvements

RDA's picture

Hi everyone,

First, an apology for the time it’s taken to implement the first (of many!) improvements to the new CooksTalk. Thanks to everyone who has stuck with us or checked back to see if we’ve made progress. We have.

The first thing you’ll notice is the easier-to-read color. The second thing I hope you’ll see is that you can increase or decrease the font size (that’s the -A and +A that you see under original posts with comments) and customize your view. Each comment and reply also has a frame around it to help you more easily distinguish one from the next. Also, links within a comment or reply (similar to Mzinga’s) detailing what you are responding to should help avoid confusion there.

See my status update (moved to the left) for info on other recently launched upgrades; the ones I’ve highlighted in this post are the ones I’m most excited about because they’ll make navigating the new CooksTalk much easier.  

This is the beginning. CooksTalk is ever-evolving and we ARE listening to your feedback, so keep it coming.

Thanks again,

Robyn

Pielove's picture

Thanks! (post #69501, reply #1 of 23)

Hi Robyn,

Thanks for the implementation, I like the wider format and the brown color.  I love the breadcrumbs too...

Jen

DJ's picture

Finally , an apology from (post #69501, reply #2 of 23)

Finally , an apology from someone at Taunton.

I'm still waiting for an apology from Jason for calling members zenophobic, and also from the Roman family for allowing him to do that.

If you eat pasta and antipasta, are you still hungry?

StevenHB's picture

@Robyn: I like most of the (post #69501, reply #3 of 23)

@Robyn: I like most of the changes.  I have to say, I do not like that the topic-area tabs (e.g. Feedback on Cookstalk, Cooking Discussion) on the left close when I refresh the screen or click into a discussion.  Also, I'd greatly prefer to be able to filter in the same way that Delphi allows filtering: New messages, New messages to me, etc. 

Without coffee, chocolate, and beer, in that order, life as we know it would not be possible
ACG's picture

"I have to say, I do not like (post #69501, reply #4 of 23)

"I have to say, I do not like that the topic-area tabs (e.g. Feedback on Cookstalk, Cooking Discussion) on the left close when I refresh the screen or click into a discussion"

That doesn't happen for me.

StevenHB's picture

I just double-checked.  It (post #69501, reply #5 of 23)

I just double-checked.  It definitely happens that the topic drop-downs close when I click into a "post."

Without coffee, chocolate, and beer, in that order, life as we know it would not be possible
RDA's picture

Thanks for the feedback (post #69501, reply #11 of 23)

Thanks for the feedback, Steven.

I'm with you. I don't like the Recent Discussions tabs closing either; I've lost my place more than once because of it. It makes for a few extra clicks, and backtracking, when I'd just like to jump around quickly. I'm not sure if there's a way around it, or we we have the ability to incorporate advanced filtering (admittedly, a major advantage of the old forum) but I can and certainly will bring your concerns (as well as all the other concerns noted in this thread) to the developers to see where we can make changes.

Like I said, the recent improvements were the beginning. Your feedback helps us chart the course.    

Adele's picture

ROCK ON!     So much easier (post #69501, reply #6 of 23)

ROCK ON!     So much easier to 'see' the page now that it's not ORANGE!     Bright red 'new'!  'Inappropriate' under each message!     More space for the reading of the threads!  

Discussions in an easy to access row!   One click and you can see recent posts!

I can see who replied to who!  (Who though this would vever have been so important?)  LOL

Yippeeeeeeeeee!

EDIT:  I'm not sure if the new red 'new' shows up when you go to a 2nd page.  I saw a new under a post but it was on the 2nd page and there wasn't a red 'new', but I knew it was new because it wasn't there yesterday.

I'm going to see how small the font goes if I increase the number of replies I can see on a page, maybe that will help

But, but, it's SUPPOSED to taste like that!

MEANCHEF's picture

Somehow the people fixing (post #69501, reply #7 of 23)

Somehow the people fixing this thing are still very confused as to what the complaints are about.  "Recent" anything is of very little value.  "new to me" is what counts.  When will they be getting around to that?  Even before there was some "new to me" on the home page,but now there is none.  A step backwards I think.

Gretchen's picture

Mean chef says  Somehow (post #69501, reply #10 of 23)

Mean chef says 

Somehow the people fixing this thing are still very confused as to what the complaints are about.  "Recent" anything is of very little value.  "new to me" is what counts.  When will they be getting around to that?  Even before there was some "new to me" on the home page,but now there is none.  A step backwards I think.

HOW BIG COULD I MAKE THIS FONT TO SAY THAT THIS COULD NOT BE MORE TRUE.  THE APPARENT "UPGRADES" HAVE TAKEN US BACK.  GEEZ.

I purposely include Mean's quote because OTHERWISE if you hit "new replies"  this rant would be a disjointed bit of drivel.  Maybe even MORE useless because no one is paying any attention.

If it is of any interest to the Taunton tinkerers, people are totally losing heart that the site will ever be useable as "we" use it, and wish you well in finding a new cadre of loyal posters. 

 

I might also add, that unless you go to "new replies", once you come to the thread you no longer know what is "new" and have to do the wonderful infamous scrolling through ALLLLL  the posts.

Gretchen
RDA's picture

Got it (post #69501, reply #12 of 23)

Sorry you feel it's a step backwards. Keep in mind, we aren't done yet.

StevenHB's picture

Losing People for Good (post #69501, reply #13 of 23)

I have to agree with Gretchen - despite your efforts and those of the developers, I do get the sense that it is taking so long that it'll be hard to get the people who made up this community previously to return,

Without coffee, chocolate, and beer, in that order, life as we know it would not be possible
Gretchen's picture

Other than your reaction to (post #69501, reply #14 of 23)

Other than your reaction to our thinking it is step backward, do you have any kind of response to our criticism about not addressing what we really WANT--not scrolling through pages (possibly) of posts to reach the post we have not read. This is what "read messages new to me" feature would SOLVE.

Gretchen
RDA's picture

We've made some progress, but (post #69501, reply #15 of 23)

I believe we've made some real progress in this round of improvements, but there's still a way to go. It's well documented that "New" has been a problem for a lot of people from the start. It's been unreliable in its various spots, and shows up occasionally even after someone has read a post, for example. That's frustrating.

My reaction to the criticism that the team hasn't addressed what you really want is to say—in this round of improvements—the team has addressed changes that many people want. We'll begin the next phase of improvements shortly (I'm sorry, I don't have a timeline), and we'll keep going until every last issue is resolved. If the community wants it, and our developers can make it happen in Drupal, we will test it, launch it, and you will have it. That process takes more time than I wish it did; I'm sorry about that.

To address your (and others') concern about the disheartened state of the community's veterans, all I can do is sincerely apologize. We're working to get you back.   

MEANCHEF's picture

Next phase of improvements (post #69501, reply #16 of 23)

What is on the list?

RDA's picture

Stay tuned (post #69501, reply #18 of 23)

I'm waiting to hear back on what the top priority fixes/updates will be now that the first phase has launched.

MEANCHEF's picture

You must be tired of (post #69501, reply #20 of 23)

You must be tired of waiting.  I am.

Syb's picture

On first glance, it's looking (post #69501, reply #8 of 23)

On first glance, it's looking a lot better to me. 

I like the brown and black.  Sooooo much better.

Fledge's picture

yeah baby, look good in the (post #69501, reply #9 of 23)

yeah baby, look good in the hood,

 

hooray for no orange.

You don't scare me

I have an African Grey

kitchengoddess's picture

Drop down feature (post #69501, reply #17 of 23)

I have to say that my favourite feature is the drop down preview on the left.  I can quickly see if there have been any new posts to conversations/messages that I am interested in without having to go into that category.  Second I love that the messages are encased in a border and that the replies seem to be falling more organized under the person you are replying to which makes the conversations flow better.

Keep up the good work!

Marie Louise's picture

I like the recent replies (post #69501, reply #19 of 23)

I like the recent replies feature. I can quickly scroll down the though the posts without having to open every thread. 

I actually like the whole redesign. It is much easier to read, especially now that the boxes have been added and the orange is gone. 

StevenHB's picture

So here's a think that I (post #69501, reply #21 of 23)

So here's a thing that I don't like.  When I clicked into this topic, there were two new comments (I clicked on the "2 new" link in the recent discussions box).  When I re-expanded the Recent Discussions / Feedback on CooksTalk area, it still showed two new in this topic, even though I was currently looking at them.  This doesn't make sense - I don't want to see that there are new items there unless they're not currently displayed on my screen.

Without coffee, chocolate, and beer, in that order, life as we know it would not be possible
Adele's picture

Steven- you have to back out (post #69501, reply #22 of 23)

Steven- you have to back out of the topic, then the 'new' goes away. If you open the topic, it shows the 'new'. It won't know if you've actually read it or not until you change the screen.

But, but, it's SUPPOSED to taste like that!

kathymcmo's picture

Adele it doesn't work that (post #69501, reply #23 of 23)

Adele it doesn't work that way for me, at least reliably. I can open several other threads but the first one I opened will still say "new" in the Recent discussions" list to the left. And sometimes, it still reads new for 1 or 2 days after I've read it, when I've closed the window and left the site entirely.