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Master Cook (post #57184)

Well since you all talked me into the food saver, what about Master Cook? I AM NOT very computer literate. Is it easy to use? What are the pros and cons. Thanks..Pamilyn

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Jean's picture

(post #57184, reply #1 of 33)

Don't know what I'd do without my MasterCook. You'll love it!

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ashleyd's picture

(post #57184, reply #2 of 33)

First off it's not a bad piece of software, cheap and does useful things like nutritional analysis. Easy to download recipes/cookbooks from the net. That said I have got it and got cookbooks loaded but I don't use it because I find the format too restrictive for the way I want to record and use recipes, there is something about the format I find quite irritating, but that could just be a personal thing or because I prefer weights to volumes. I've not got the latest version (8?) but I doubt that it has improved much in that area.


Edit to say that you might want to look at Living Cook Book which you can download for evaluation



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Edited 3/23/2005 6:56 am ET by ashleyd

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pamilyn's picture

(post #57184, reply #3 of 33)

no one has let me know if it is easy or hard to figure out. No computer skills here. Pamilyn

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ashleyd's picture

(post #57184, reply #4 of 33)

OK, Master Cook is easy to use from the get go, you don't need to be a computer expert. There are some features which you will have to study to get the best out  of them (like importing recipes from non-Master Cook formats) but in general it is fairly easy to use.


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KarenP's picture

(post #57184, reply #5 of 33)

no one has let me know if it is easy or hard to figure out. No computer skills here


VERY easy. If you can cut and paste, you're in.  Easy to file, easy to move, easy to set up email unless you have aol, and lesseee...easy to make and delete cookbooks.  Besides, we'll help you if you get stuck. C'mon...you want it....you need it...you gotta have it!

pamilyn's picture

(post #57184, reply #6 of 33)

I don't know how to cut and paste. No one ever showed me. I am a very quick learner however.Pamilyn

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KarenP's picture

(post #57184, reply #7 of 33)

I don't know how to cut and paste. No one ever showed me. I am a very quick learner however.Pamilyn


two quick version on a pc..someone with a mac will have to remind me..we have one, I never use it.


highlight text to be copied
right click
select copy
click where you want it pasted
right click
select paste


version 2

highlight text to be copied
press cntrl (borrom left or right corner of keyboard) tap the c
click where you want to paste
press cntrl (same place ;-))  tap the v
You do hold down the cntrol key while you tap the letter then you can let it go..

There ya go then..


 


 

pamilyn's picture

(post #57184, reply #8 of 33)

Too brain dead now but will try in morn. Thanks, Pamilyn PS. I might need a complete computer class, you have no idea how lame I am...:)

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KarenP's picture

(post #57184, reply #9 of 33)

Too brain dead now but will try in morn. Thanks, Pamilyn PS. I might need a complete computer class, you have no idea how lame I am...:)


Bring it on...You can't scare me.  :-))

Adele's picture

(post #57184, reply #12 of 33)

Lots of colleges & high schools offer basic computer classes.  We have a community paper that also lists classes.  A basic class can be very worthwhile, plus you usually get a workbook to refer back to. 


Edit:  You can also browse the bookstore & get a 'Computer for Dummies' book, they are helpful.


But, but, it's SUPPOSED to taste like that!


Edited 3/24/2005 11:07 am ET by Adele

But, but, it's SUPPOSED to taste like that!

pamilyn's picture

(post #57184, reply #20 of 33)

Where I want it pasted??? Like into a file? I am hopeless. I need someone to SHOW me and then I get. I have a very arty brain!! :) pamilyn


I think I'll take a class......

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Jean's picture

(post #57184, reply #21 of 33)

Yes, set up a file or buy a program. Ask any middle/high school kid you know to help.

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pamilyn's picture

(post #57184, reply #22 of 33)

Jean, How did you get so good at this computer stuff? You're not in High School!! Pamilyn

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KarenP's picture

(post #57184, reply #25 of 33)

Ask any middle/high school kid you know to help.


I worked with a programmer once that suggested a kindergartner.  My brother's grandkids have taught him a LOT.

KarenP's picture

(post #57184, reply #24 of 33)

Where I want it pasted??? Like into a file? I am hopeless. I need someone to SHOW me and then I get. I have a very arty brain!! :) pamilyn


I think I'll take a class......


Where you want it pasted willl, of course, depend on what you are pasting.  If you are pasting a recipe for instance, I would assume that you paste to a word file or because of this discussion, into Mastercook.


For a word file, you right click on the blank word document, the cursor will blink where the information is going to end up.


In Mastercook, there is a function where you can put a recipe and either highlight the parts (title, ingredients, instructions) individually and move them to the recipe part of the program, OR (and I've never been successful with this part) letting it automatically format the recipe for you.  To get to that function, while in the cookbook where you want to add the recipe (MC has ability for multiple cookbooks within the one program) you press cntrl and tap the G.  This opens a window.  Click in the window, the cursor will blink there, paste your recipe.  To continue, you would highlight each portion of the recipe, select where you want it placed within the recipe format, click on move to recipe and then save it.


 

pamilyn's picture

(post #57184, reply #26 of 33)

Yeah right...thanks anyway..:)...seriously, I will try it, Thanks all. Pamilyn

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Jean's picture

(post #57184, reply #27 of 33)

With mastercook you click file and then choose Import Assistant.
Then you can copy/paste, edit, type, whatever.

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KarenP's picture

(post #57184, reply #28 of 33)

With mastercook you click file and then choose Import Assistant.
Then you can copy/paste, edit, type, whatever.


Yep, that works too.  Cntrl G is another shortcut to do the same thing.

digigirl's picture

(post #57184, reply #29 of 33)

I just found this thread with a search for Recipe Software.  It looks like there have been a lot of discussions on this topic over the last couple of years! 


I've had Mastercook for several years, and it's better than nothing, but I don't know... I just don't love it.  So I just discovered LivingCookbook.com and BigOven.com the other day.  I downloaded both trials.  They are similar in features, but I think LivingCookbook is much more user friendly (so far).


Have any of you looked at BigOven?  I also did a search and found a whole bunch of others softwares, but it looks like these two are the newest and with the most features. 


One complaint about LivingCookbook I found when I was searching for reviews is that the license only allows you to install on one computer.  So, for instance, you can't put it on your desktop AND your laptop, which many software licenses do allow.  That isn't important to me, but the guy who was complaining was very annoyed.  So be aware up front about that. 


I'm tempted to get LivingCookbook.... but then I wonder.... MasterCook has been around for so long.  If I get LivingCookbook is it going to be gone in a year and then I'll have to switch back again when it's outdated?  Hmm.....


One of the big selling points of BigOven is that you get, I think, 4000 recipes with the software, but then you can go to their website online and have access to another 100,000 that you can search and import.  Plus, people rate them, so you have a user review to go by.  I like that feature, but in usability, I still think I like LivingCookbook better.


Anybody else have any comments on these or any other softwares?


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Jean's picture

(post #57184, reply #30 of 33)

I haven't used one recipe that came with my Master Cook. Not one. My favorites all come from here or one of my many many cookbooks. So the number of available recipes means nothing to me, there are so many good sites on-line with recipes too- Epicurious comes to mind, there are loads of others too. I could ditch all the recipes that came with the program and never miss them. Honest. BTW, welcome.  You will love it here.

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MadMom's picture

(post #57184, reply #31 of 33)

Welcome to CT.  I think most people here, including me, use and like Master Cook.  If you've found something you like better, go for it.  I do know tht Master Cook has been around forever (I actually have a copy of version 2.0 somewhere!) and it has a pretty big following, so it should be supported for quite a while.  I agree with Jean about the recipes.  I found a version which included recipes from Cooking Light, and although I'm not a fan of the magazine, I do like some of their recipes.  Still haven't used any of them.



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SallyBR's picture

(post #57184, reply #32 of 33)

I got Living Cookbook only 1 week ago and love it - I've had Mastercook for years. Never cared for the format, but thought that it was the best way to keep my recipes and import stuff from the net.


I am so glad I switched to LC - I love the features, love the format, imported all the recipes I had from Mastercook in minutes, will never look back


As far as recipes that come with software - I agree with the others, never cooked a single one. To me, what matters in a software is how it handles the recipes you choose to work with. There are several features in LC that I haven t used - but they seem quite cool - for instance, people who use the "points" system for diet can find out that info for every recipe quite easily.


 


 

 

SondraG's picture

(post #57184, reply #33 of 33)

I am SO hooked on Living Cookbook.  Love it, have been organizing and typing in recipes like a madwoman for days.  Thanks, Sally.

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SallyBR's picture

(post #57184, reply #10 of 33)

Hi, Ashley


do you have Living Cookbook?  have you tried their demo?


 

 

ashleyd's picture

(post #57184, reply #11 of 33)

I looked through some of the on-line tutorials and it seemed OK, I still have my own Word formats which suit my style of recording better.


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Syrah's picture

(post #57184, reply #13 of 33)

I have it Sally and I love it! Are you considering it?? I don't think you'll regret it.

 


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SallyBR's picture

(post #57184, reply #14 of 33)

I cannot believe I'm considering it.   Don t tell Phil. Don t tell anyone. But I am considering it. I don t like Mastercook, hate that format, but like some of its features, nutritional analysis, the auto-fill in when you type ingredients etc etc.


Living Cookbook has the same good features


have you used Mastercook?  If so, do you think this is really a better product? I am impressed by their support on the net, it seems they answers all questions quickly and efficiently.


On my second use of the demo I already imported all my own recipes from Mastercook and two full cookbooks I had in my computer.


(le sigh)


 


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SondraG's picture

(post #57184, reply #15 of 33)

Interested in your feedback on Living Software vs MasterCook.  Tried MasterCook ages ago, and hated it.  Am now collecting recipes from so many venues (thanks mostly to resident enablers here), it's getting out of hand.  Am temporarily storing in MS Word, but that doesn't provide enough organization.  So, it's time to get serious.  I will download software and jump in there with you!!


Lol, I won't tell Phil if you won't tell my DH (Michael).  I have bought more cookbooks this Winter than ever.  (Recently Olives Dessert, RLB's Bread Bible, Bread Bakers Apprentice, Bittersweet...and more.)


Edited to say, I just downloaded software trial, and will work with today.  So dreary here, it's a good day to work with it.



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Edited 3/25/2005 10:35 am ET by WickedRedhead

 

Syrah's picture

(post #57184, reply #16 of 33)

I won't tell him. I haven't tried Mastercook but I have used other recipe database programmes that sucked. Living Cookbook is really good to use. I especially like the recipe capturing, where you can copy text and then assign it to the relevant fields, and it becomes a recipe. I recommend you have a play around with it. It was recommended strongly to me by Leannr and Shaye. I think Leannr had used Mastercook.

 


"If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world."


 


J.R.R. Tolkien

"Life is not easy for any of us. But what of that? We must have perseverance and, above all, confidence in ourselves. We must believe that we are gifted for something, and that this thing, at whatever cost, must be obtained." -Marie Curie

SondraG's picture

(post #57184, reply #17 of 33)

I've been working with it today.  I can't do a feature by feature comparison with Master Cook, but here's what I like so far.  Clean interface, easy to move between functions.  I like that the software follows MS Files/Folders schema, so it's easy to see what you have and where you are.  I built a recipe using cut and copy from MS Word to relevant fields.  Worked great.  Like the grocery lists (will probably use more than I think, particularly for Costco trips.)  Like the Glossary, and the ingredient definitions.  So far, I like it a lot.  Next, I will try the Import and Export features. 

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