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"New" Range Decision

Frankie's picture

"New" Range Decision (post #56221)

So, we are renovating an apt. The range is up for grabs. I don't have room for it but my DS & DBIL do.

Pro's: It's HUGE! [56"], 29" + 19" ovens, 6 burners, 22" fry griddle, salamander (broiler), gas, comes with range hood. Very good condition and well maintained. Photos show it's dirty. Mostly dust. Didn't clean it up so others don't get interested. Free + moving costs ($350) + full day. They live in a ranch with basement so running new electrical isn't major and exhaust duct can go directly to roof.

Con's: It's HUGE! At least 20 yrs old, no electronic ignition therefore lots of pilot lights. This translates to over $300/yr in gas {just for pilots}, gas will be LP so more frequent fill ups or new larger storage tank ($$?), orifices will need to be changed for LP from NG (DYI or Service call?). It's not current fashion Stainless Steel and they have an open kitchen. Replacement parts are limited. Oh yeah - due to size, it requires a hood. Therefore hood (included with) needs to be installed. Installation project grows - ducting, house penetrations, new electrical circuit for hood from main electrical panel.

Their current range (10 yr Magic Chef) has been limping and recently the oven died so they need a range immediately. Kitchen will be renovated within next 2 years. Very little modifications need to be done to make it fit. They cook and entertain a lot and host Thanksgiving (20-30).

I am wondering if there is a way to turn off the cooktop pilot lights and light the burners manually.

Somehow, I think it is too much and due to the griddle/ salamander, too tall. However, this gives them an opportunity to start cooking with a serious range and determine what they really need when they renovate.

Would you take it on?

Frankie


Flay your Suffolk bought-this-morning sole with organic hand-cracked pepper and blasted salt.
Thrill each side for four minutes at torchmark haut. Interrogate a lemon.
Embarrass any tough roots from the samphire. Then bamboozle till it's al dente with that certain je ne sais quoi.

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Flay your Suffolk bought-this-morning sole with organic hand-cracked pepper and blasted salt. Thrill each side for four minutes at torchmark haut. Interrogate a lemon. Embarrass any tough roots from the samphire. Then bamboozle till it's al dente with that certain je ne sais quoi.

Arabella Weir as Minty Marchmont - Posh Nosh


Heather's picture

(post #56221, reply #1 of 11)

My 28 year old commercial gas cooktop has little screws on the front near the dials that turn the pilot lights off. Not sure about your unit.

Barbara48's picture

(post #56221, reply #2 of 11)

Can't get much of a stove for 350 and installation. I think it sounds wonderful if it works OK,

Frankie's picture

(post #56221, reply #3 of 11)

Aha! I was wondering what that screw was for.

Thank you.

Frankie


Flay your Suffolk bought-this-morning sole with organic hand-cracked pepper and blasted salt.
Thrill each side for four minutes at torchmark haut. Interrogate a lemon.
Embarrass any tough roots from the samphire. Then bamboozle till it's al dente with that certain je ne sais quoi.

Arabella Weir as Minty Marchmont - Posh Nosh


Flay your Suffolk bought-this-morning sole with organic hand-cracked pepper and blasted salt. Thrill each side for four minutes at torchmark haut. Interrogate a lemon. Embarrass any tough roots from the samphire. Then bamboozle till it's al dente with that certain je ne sais quoi.

Arabella Weir as Minty Marchmont - Posh Nosh


chiquiNO's picture

(post #56221, reply #4 of 11)

OMGGGGG!!!!  I would take it on in a heartbeat!!!  Lucky couple!!!

Chiqui from way down yonder in New Orleans

 

courgette's picture

(post #56221, reply #5 of 11)

You stole my words...I was thinking "In a Heartbeat!"


 


Mo

chiquiNO's picture

(post #56221, reply #6 of 11)

Absolutely!!!!  I adore Wolf ranges...no matter how old they are...they are like mules!!

Chiqui from way down yonder in New Orleans

 

Marie Louise's picture

(post #56221, reply #7 of 11)

I would try and determine if this is one of the pre-Sub Zero Wolfs that were built for home use. It was a brief attempt to enter into the home market; they were called Wolf Gourmet.

I had one of these, and it was temperamental & plagued w/ recall problems: It had venting problems that filled the oven w/ black soot that I never could get off. It had a cracked broiler and delayed ignition so bad that the oven door blew open once the gas finally ignited. (This happened repeatedly, and the first repairman tried to tell me it was because the tile floor in my kitchen caused moisture to built up in the oven and this was normal.) Mine burners had electronic ignition, and that also failed a number of times. Every Wolf repairman in the Bay Area knew where I lived.

Although sold as zero-clearance, it was so poorly insulated that it cracked the adjoining kitchen cabinets from normal oven use-that was the start of an entirely new set of kitchen cabinets.

So... from my POV, it appears to be far, far from a bargain.


Edited 10/5/2008 8:38 pm by Marie Louise

Frankie's picture

(post #56221, reply #9 of 11)

No electronic ignition. Everything is pilot light lit. It is not the Gourmet/ Subzero version.

As for clearance, there is a cabinet on each side of the range within 1/4". No damage to those cabinets and they are also 20 years old.

This range has served a family of seven for the past 20 years. My guess is the quirks have been worked out - if there were any.

My cold feet were stemming from it being such a huge piece of equipment and it requires a certain level of commitment - for installation and for its use. I look online and this (well similar) unit is available for $4.5K (new). Such a deal.

Frankie


Flay your Suffolk bought-this-morning sole with organic hand-cracked pepper and blasted salt.
Thrill each side for four minutes at torchmark haut. Interrogate a lemon.
Embarrass any tough roots from the samphire. Then bamboozle till it's al dente with that certain je ne sais quoi.

Arabella Weir as Minty Marchmont - Posh Nosh


Flay your Suffolk bought-this-morning sole with organic hand-cracked pepper and blasted salt. Thrill each side for four minutes at torchmark haut. Interrogate a lemon. Embarrass any tough roots from the samphire. Then bamboozle till it's al dente with that certain je ne sais quoi.

Arabella Weir as Minty Marchmont - Posh Nosh


Marie Louise's picture

(post #56221, reply #10 of 11)

My Wolf was made in about 1997/8.

Before you move it, turn the oven on to 350 or 400. My oven door was hot, hot, hot to the touch.

Wolf did and does make good commercial ranges. That may be what this one is. And I know several people (AP on KP among them) who still have the Wolf Gourmets, and they are working fine. But that stove of mine started a cascade of very expensive remodeling-and that was no bargain.

Now I have a self-cleaning Viking that is much better insulated. The oven is smaller because of all that insulation, but the door is cool to the touch and the door hasn't blown open once since I've had it.

Frankie's picture

(post #56221, reply #11 of 11)

Thanks for the advice. I'll give it a trial run.

Frankie


Flay your Suffolk bought-this-morning sole with organic hand-cracked pepper and blasted salt.
Thrill each side for four minutes at torchmark haut. Interrogate a lemon.
Embarrass any tough roots from the samphire. Then bamboozle till it's al dente with that certain je ne sais quoi.

Arabella Weir as Minty Marchmont - Posh Nosh


Flay your Suffolk bought-this-morning sole with organic hand-cracked pepper and blasted salt. Thrill each side for four minutes at torchmark haut. Interrogate a lemon. Embarrass any tough roots from the samphire. Then bamboozle till it's al dente with that certain je ne sais quoi.

Arabella Weir as Minty Marchmont - Posh Nosh


mer's picture

(post #56221, reply #8 of 11)

ML raises good points. Double check clearance requirements to other cabinets and also check if you need a firewall behind it. This cannot simply be put where a Magic Chef has been.