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minug's picture

Hi,

I want to buy a new cook set that is non teflon, any suggestions? I am looking for a qualtity set that will last me many years.

Thanks in advance!

Lee's picture

(post #54804, reply #1 of 47)

I have All Clad and highly recommend it.  Mine are brushed aluminum with stainless lining; I think it's the Masterchef series.  All Clad also makes all-stainless cookware, and cookware that has a black, anodized aluminum exterior and a stainless lining.  Both are more expensive than the Masterchef.  The cookware is heavy and has a multi-layered "sandwich" core of copper and aluminum (the best heat conductors), which results in virtually no hot spots.  They're well balanced with heavy, riveted metal handles, so you can put any of the pieces in the oven without fear that the handles will melt.  I also like the flat lids.  I store mine in a dishrack in a deep drawer under the cooktop -- no more lids falling all over the floor.  I bought mine when it first came out, maybe 15 years ago (and lugged it all home from a trip to New Orleans!).  I still love it.  In addition to the All-Clad, you might want to look into Le Creuset French ovens, which are wonderful for braises and other long-cooked dishes, but I must say that I get excellent result with my All Clad on those types of dishes, too.  Non-stick is still the best for cooking delicate things, like fish and eggs.  All Clad makes heavy, non-stick cookware that doesn't scratch and peel the way Teflon does.  I use their non-stick skillets for those types of foods and love them, but you really don't need to spend a lot of money for non-stick skillets.  There are other brands with Silverstone or similar linings that are a decent weight, but less expensive.  I have a small Emerilware non-stick skillet that was considerably less expensive than the same sized All Clad, and it's perfectly fine for it's purpose.  I'd be careful of buying sets.  They frequently include pieces that you may never use.  

Gretchen's picture

(post #54804, reply #3 of 47)

Do you have a budget in mind?


Lee has given a marvelous rundown of very nice, durable,good cooking and high end cookware. Costco and Sam's have Wolfgang Puck's and their house brands of similar cookware at a much less price.
Shopping on amazon for individual pieces might be something else to think about. You might not need to spend beaucoup bucks for non-stick frying pan ( you need at least one of these).


Our kids have Calphalon and I continually burn my hand on the handles because I am used to my knockoff Calphalon whose handles do not get blisteringly hot.


 


 


Gretchen


Edited 8/26/2005 12:13 pm ET by Gretchen

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Jean's picture

(post #54804, reply #4 of 47)

I pretty much hate the calphalon handles, unless there's a c handle on the opposite side, there is a tendency for the pan to tilt, they're too skinny. That said,  if I can find something on sale, I keep buying it. Just got a 7 qt casserole pan for $20 from Amazon. It has a tiny scratch on the inside of the cover, I suppose that's why is was so cheap. I doesn't bother me at that price.  Warning about Calphalon, the first nice pan I bought, my DSiL put the hot pan in cold water and it warped and the cover no longer fit.. I was so piffed, I gave the pan away, couldn't stand to look at it. Expensive pans shouldn't warp that way!!!

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Gretchen's picture

(post #54804, reply #5 of 47)

I remember you telling that and I think they would have replaced it--sorry to say it now.

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Jean's picture

(post #54804, reply #6 of 47)

I told the person I gave it to to bring it to a dealer and get it replaced. I never found out if she did or not.

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Lee's picture

(post #54804, reply #15 of 47)

I bought Calphalon when it first came out.  It was far superior to the Farberware I had been using, but I can't tell you how many pots had to be replaced over the years because the "black" on the inside would wear away leaving exposed aluminum, which turned my sauces and soups gray.  WS was always very accomodating about replacing it without question (one salesperson told me they replaced a lot of it), but I finally got fed up and bought All Clad when it was introduced.  I warned BOTH my DDs not to register for Calphalon when they got married, but their friends had it, and, of course, friends know best, so they ended up with lots of it.  They too have gradually replaced all their pieces (tee hee).  I have a couple of skillets left, which have been fine.  Have you had the same problem?


Edited 8/26/2005 8:51 pm ET by lee

Risottogirl's picture

(post #54804, reply #17 of 47)

I have a few pieces of old Calphalon that I like - no problems.

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Wolvie's picture

(post #54804, reply #20 of 47)

same here.


I've only ever had to replace one stock pot, and it was of the newer stuff. The old, original, Calphalon that I bought ( well over 15 years ago)  is still going strong.



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Jean's picture

(post #54804, reply #18 of 47)

No wear problems, but I haven't had them very long. The only reason I bought the last piece was because it has 2 C handles and was soooooo inexpensive. It will be great for soups and stews and won't be  used too often because it's so huge. Given a choice with money being no object, I'd go for AllClad.

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Wolvie's picture

(post #54804, reply #21 of 47)

I was trying to warn you guys about the quality of the "commercial" Calphalon being sold these days. It just doesn't compare to the original.


The new line, Calphalon One, does. It is heavy and durable, and would never warp under the conditions you describe.


The couple of cheapo Calph's I bought at Amazon are a thin version of the good stuff. :-)



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Gretchen's picture

(post #54804, reply #22 of 47)

I think that must be the line that Target sells. Definitely not the 'real" stuff.

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NanaC's picture

(post #54804, reply #23 of 47)

Chef Robert and I were given a complete set of Farberware by my parents when we got married.  I hated it... The "heavy aluminum" bottoms just didn't do it... everything stuck and burned! 


We've gradually, over the last 20 years or more, replaced it all and more with All Clad with the brushed aluminum exterior.  We'd buy a pot or pan or two for ourselves every Christmas and again if it went on sale.  You name it, we've probably got it!


The only Farberware we're still using is the small steamer... use that almost every day.  I like the design, the size is perfect for veggies for 2-4 people, and sticking isn't an issue.


You just can't beat the All Clad for even heating... soups, risotto, sauces, whatever, are all so easy! 


For frying and sauteeing, though, I do prefer the Eagleware non-stick frypans we bought at a restaurant supply place.  Yes, they do scratch, but we just replace them every 5-6 years or so; they're not expensive.  That way we always have 2 each of 4 sizes, one really smooth and one more or less OK.  Great for an Indian meal or a country breakfast.


Edited to say:  I almost forgot, until Chef Robert reminded me, We had several Dansk pots and pans in between the Farberware and the All Clad, and the steamer is Dansk, not Farberware.  We still have the Dansk, but rarely use anything but that steamer and the larger pots.  Hey, over the course of 40 years of marriage, your memory is allowed to get a bit hazy!


 



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Edited 8/27/2005 5:18 pm ET by NanaC

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Aberwacky's picture

(post #54804, reply #24 of 47)

I don't like the handles on All-Clad--they don't fit my hands well, and are very uncomfortable for me.  The pans are great, though.  Like knives, I think when someone is buying pans, they should see them in person, pick them up, hold them, and see if they are a good fit.


If someone is looking for an alternative, they should look at the Calphalon tri-ply stainless steel line. It's a stainless-aluminum-stainless sandwhich, and they cook and clean like a dream. I love the pans and the handles, but not the lids, which are glass, but have proved to be surprisingly durable. 


Leigh


 


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Wolvie's picture

(post #54804, reply #25 of 47)

I bought some of the Calphalon tri ply copper pans. Very nice.


I agree about the lids, but since I seldom have to use those, they stay hidden.



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Aberwacky's picture

(post #54804, reply #26 of 47)

Yes, I have a few of those, too.  They are lovely and I really like them, but the all-stainless go in the dishwasher!


Leigh


 


Just because your children were born in the South doesn't make them Southerners.  If a cat has kittens in the oven, does that make them biscuits?

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tcurda's picture

(post #54804, reply #27 of 47)

I picked up the Member's Mark set from Sam's Club a year or more ago, and I've been quite happy with it. Stainless steel with aluminum core sandwich, riveted metal handles that are comfortable to my hands, and it only ran me about US$120. I'd eventually like to go AllClad but that won't happen until I have the $$$ for individual pcs.

I picked up a Caphalon tri-ply stir fry pan. It works well when I remember to use it, but I always seem to fall back on the 8" or 10" saute or the humongous lidded fry pan.

I've since added a couple of non-stick pans that Sam's sells for restaurant use (they work well for eggs, pancakes, etc).

I also have the remains of our RevereWare copper bottom set we got as a wedding gift. The fry pans are long gone, but the pots are still going strong and work well for pasta, veggies, etc.

I do need to get a cast iron pan, and a Dutch oven or two.

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Gretchen's picture

(post #54804, reply #28 of 47)

When you want to look at Dutch ovens take a look on Amazon for the Innova line of enamel cast iron. I am very pleased with mine--7qt. for $45. I have another couple of LC.

Gretchen

 

And I have been very satisfied with my Sam's "calphalon".


Edited 8/28/2005 11:48 am ET by Gretchen

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tcurda's picture

(post #54804, reply #29 of 47)

Thanks Gretchen, I will definitely have a look at the Innova line. I have a feeling that LC will wind up a leetle too rich for my budget.

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AmyElliesMom's picture

(post #54804, reply #30 of 47)

Innova is totally on my Generic Winter Holiday Wishlist! I can't thank you enough for bringing that to my attention. I've decided to go for some of that instead of a pressure cooker - I think it will get more use in the long run.

And it's affordable, so I won't be afraid to use it!

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cookie1's picture

(post #54804, reply #31 of 47)

Hi Gretchen, I really need a dutch oven. What size would be considered a good starter size?

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Gretchen's picture

(post #54804, reply #32 of 47)

I guess it depends on how many you are cooking for--and what kinds of dishes.  I think a 5qt. is pretty user friendly.  For things with bones (like short ribs), the 7qt. is pretty good. 
Then you have to wrestle with whether an oval or round is the right shape although I am not sure the Innova line comes in rounds. 
Another reasonable line is Daniel Bolud--more than Innova but less than LC.

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cookie1's picture

(post #54804, reply #33 of 47)

Thanks Gretchen!


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sheellah's picture

(post #54804, reply #42 of 47)

I was in Crate & Barrel in NYC and it seems Mario Batali just came out with a line of enameled cast iron. If you think LC is heavy, you should try and pick up his. Geez!!! You need a derrick. He has a beautiful grill pan and press but it weighs an absolute ton. About twice the LC ones. Also Dutch ovens and a few other pieces. I think a 5 or 6 qt. oven was about $99 or so. Came in red, orange and dark gray with white interiors. An interesting, if strange handle on them. I much prefer the LC.

Gretchen's picture

(post #54804, reply #43 of 47)

I want them to "cook". I have come to them late. I have LC--I don't need a lot of them. If Mario's suit me, I might buy some of them. But LC is exorbitant, even in the outlet store.


If I had started earlier in my life and wanted a "collection" then it might be different.  If I got them all at a discount, that would be different.  At the moment, I want them to make good braises, etc. 


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(post #54804, reply #44 of 47)

this is some of it:


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edit: ;-) color coordinates with his book jacket.


Edited 8/30/2005 10:28 pm ET by KarenP

RuthWells's picture

(post #54804, reply #37 of 47)

Have you had the same problem?


I have had the same problem with my wedding Calphalon as well, Lee.  Very frustrating, as I don't particularly care for their new lines (which is all you can get as replacements anymore).  When I win the lottery, I'm buying Hubby lots of All-Clad stainless and chucking the Calphalon.


 


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Lee's picture

(post #54804, reply #38 of 47)

I originally purchased my Calphalon from WS who replaced many of the pieces over the years as it degraded.  When the replacements went bad, I bought All Clad when I first saw it in a cookware shop on a trip to NO.  I loved it.  I happened to mention my sad tale soon after to a manager at WS, and she told me I could bring in any of the worn Calphalon I had left and they would credit it towards whatever cookware I purchased.  I was back the next day and ended up with several additional All Clad pieces.  The new pieces cost more than the credit for the old, but I figure I still ended up ahead.  I don't know where yours was purchased, but you might inquire about the replacement policy. 

Edited 8/29/2005 12:19 pm ET by lee


Edited 8/29/2005 12:20 pm ET by lee

RuthWells's picture

(post #54804, reply #39 of 47)

Sounds like you lucked into some great customer service, there.  Ours were all gifts, so who knows where they came from?  Most of the damaged pieces have been replaced at this point, with either the new Calphalon Commercial equivalent (which bites) and a few pieces of Calphalon One (which is okay, but I hate to have to baby the non-stick surfaces).  Live and learn!


 


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Wolvie's picture

(post #54804, reply #40 of 47)

now I thought you got Calphalon non stick, not Calphalon one. Very different animals.

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RuthWells's picture

(post #54804, reply #41 of 47)

We got one piece of Calph One, a few of Calph Non-stick, and a few of the crap they're trying to pass off as Commercial.  I say : p"""""" to all of it!


 


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