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BarbaraK's picture

A friend is considering having heated floor tiles installed in the kitchen of a new town home now being built. The house design has the kitchen (which I gather is not on the ground floor) extending out, beyond the front of the house, suspended with nothing underneath. She is afraid in this northern climate, the floor will get very cold in the winter. Anyone have any experience with heated floor tiles? Any words of advice I can pass on?

IMERC's picture

(post #54374, reply #1 of 46)

RFH (Radiant Floor Heat) is what yur basicaly asking about. There are a lot of variations on this theme..


In the Breaktime you can ask this question but may I sugest a lot more information be given.


Narrow down the geographical location a little better...


Type of finish floor...


What type of RFH is under consisderation.. HW, electric mat, electric coil, solar supplemented, imbeded or...........


You could go over there and type in RFH using the advanced search function....


BTW, RFH is one of the best ways to go....



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Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!

 

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BarbaraK's picture

(post #54374, reply #3 of 46)

OK, I know when I have hit my limit of competence! I have e-mailed my friend, and asked her to look at your questions -- I have no idea the answers! Except the geographical location -- this is Ottawa, Canada. So it gets cold!

Thank you for your speedy help!

Glenys's picture

(post #54374, reply #4 of 46)

Well our weather in Vancouver is nothing like Ottawa but my friend spent the money on installing radiant heat under her slate and wood floors in her second story condo. What she didn't factor in was part of the condo was built over the underground parking roof. In those areas, the heat is lost competely. It's perfect for the rest of the unit, which has a fireplace. Clean looking, no registers and lovely even heat.

BarbaraK's picture

(post #54374, reply #6 of 46)

Do the tiles in your friend's condo not work over the garage roof because they just can't compete with the cold from below? Hmmm..... that might be comparable to my friend's situation.

Glenys's picture

(post #54374, reply #8 of 46)

Exactly. She thought it may have been malfunctioning but when they tested them, or simply when it warms up a bit, the floor is as warm as the rest of the areas. When it's cold, the heat either disipates down or can't compete with the cold below. Either, I would guess.

IMERC's picture

(post #54374, reply #10 of 46)

Lack of underside insulation seem to be at fault here... 


Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming....

                                                                   WOW!!!   What a Ride!

 

Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />

WOW!!! What a Ride!


Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!

 

"Some days it's just not worth chewing through the restraints"
BarbaraK's picture

(post #54374, reply #5 of 46)

I spoke with my friend. They are looking at an electric mat under a ceramic floor, or other electric alternatives. Does that help?

Which other forum are you posting the question on, may I ask?

IMERC's picture

(post #54374, reply #9 of 46)

Yes it does..


Breaktime (BT) is the the forum listed in the header just to left of CT... Click on it and yur in business...


5-Oh (da cops) busted me with another poster for trying to help some body by telling us ALL about that we weren't posting within forum theme... Told us to take to BT...


Properly done from the git go RFH is some wonderful stuff.. Just 'cause the kitchn is cantilevered into free space does not mean that it could not work... At BT there is a long list of extremely knowlegable folks and there are several electric RFH floors in progress right now....


Use the Energy or Construction folders.. and the fact that most of the BT crowd is a rowdy lot is hopefully myth...



Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming....

                                                                   WOW!!!   What a Ride!

 

Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />

WOW!!! What a Ride!


Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!

 

"Some days it's just not worth chewing through the restraints"
BarbaraK's picture

(post #54374, reply #11 of 46)

Thank you! I have passed this on to my friend.

IMERC's picture

(post #54374, reply #2 of 46)

BTW.... Posting this question or doing a search over there...


Prepare to be overwhelmed..



Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming....

                                                                   WOW!!!   What a Ride!

 

Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />

WOW!!! What a Ride!


Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!

 

"Some days it's just not worth chewing through the restraints"
MER02's picture

(post #54374, reply #7 of 46)

Sounds like she needs some insulation from below, but would enjoy the electric mat under ceramic tile. I can't wait to do my bathroom like that, maybe two years from now. It is soooo cool, or rather warm. :) You can put timers on them so that they will go on an hour before you wake up in the am and will go off after you leave for work.

Doris1149's picture

(post #54374, reply #19 of 46)

We remodeled a bathroom two years ago-used the Warmly Yours electric mat  heating system.  It is so nice. This company designs the mats for each bathroom and sends detailed plans for installing it. It is set in a mortar bed.  The computerized controls are excellent. I'm still in awe of the fact that the system can figure out just how long it will need to reach the preset temperature and turn itself on automatically.


We like it well enough to use in the bathroom remodeling that will start in October.


DJ-

DJ-

MER02's picture

(post #54374, reply #25 of 46)

Sounds wonderful. I can't wait to do mine. :)

Debby's picture

(post #54374, reply #12 of 46)

Your friend will most definitely want some form of radiant heating for her tile floors!  It would otherwise be most uncomfortable for her if she spent any time standing in her kitchen on those cold tiles--leg cramps, etc... (I speak from experience!)   And warm slippers are not enough!

BarbaraK's picture

(post #54374, reply #13 of 46)

Thank you -- I will pass it on. That is exactly what she is afraid of. (And you want to be able to spend time in your kitchen!)

Jangomango's picture

(post #54374, reply #14 of 46)

Lived with floor (radiant) heat for 22 years in California.  Copper pipes embedded in concrete fed by a large boiler.  Ceramic tiles on top of the slab.   The heating system even survived the big earthquakes but some neighbours' didn't. 


If I ever build a house from scratch, I would go with radiant heat in a heartbeat.    Not sure what would happen with a floor suspended out in the wilderness though.

helena's picture

(post #54374, reply #15 of 46)

We had heating installed under our tile floors two years ago. We had a new technique installed, where they basically drive a big machine over your concrete floors and make 'gutters' in the floor (sorry, can't seem to come up with the corect English word). Compare it to what you do in your walls when you need to install electricity.


In these gutters, they put something that resembles a plastic hose, that has warm water running through it. The whole thing is connecting to our central heating, so runs on gas. It is economically much more efficient than the electric heating mats, plus the height of the floor stays the same as the gutters are made in the concrete, and nothing is layered on top of it.


It takes some time to adjust the whole heating system. In the beginning, our rooms were warm before the floor had a chance to warm up, but now, we've turned down the other heating corpses in order to get the floor to heat up and contribute to the temperature in the room. I wonder if I'm making any sense?! It is so hard to translate things like this into English!

IMERC's picture

(post #54374, reply #16 of 46)

You did well... Understood all of it...


Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming....

                                                                   WOW!!!   What a Ride!

 

Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />

WOW!!! What a Ride!


Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!

 

"Some days it's just not worth chewing through the restraints"
helena's picture

(post #54374, reply #17 of 46)

Thanks! Sometimes it is just so hard to explain yourself in another language! I remember vividly the first time I was in the US. I had no clue of the different measurement system. I was standing in front of the cold cuts section in the supermaket asking for an once of chicken (as that was the only meat I knew to translate) and wondered why the heck I only got two slices. Little did I know that the ounce we refer to equals 3 US ounces. The lady at the counter must have thought I was weird, LOL!

IMERC's picture

(post #54374, reply #18 of 46)

Now it's my turn... Das gloops... Did I get that right???


It has been a long time since I have been in Holland...



Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming....

                                                                   WOW!!!   What a Ride!

 

Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />

WOW!!! What a Ride!


Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!

 

"Some days it's just not worth chewing through the restraints"
helena's picture

(post #54374, reply #20 of 46)

Sorry, I'm not sure what you meant to say, LOL!

IMERC's picture

(post #54374, reply #21 of 46)

Das gut??? instead


Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming....

                                                                   WOW!!!   What a Ride!

 

Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />

WOW!!! What a Ride!


Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!

 

"Some days it's just not worth chewing through the restraints"
helena's picture

(post #54374, reply #22 of 46)

Dat is goed maybe? As in 'that's good?  :o)

IMERC's picture

(post #54374, reply #23 of 46)

Yes.. Thank you...


Where are you in Holland???


I spent a lot time in Edam and toured your country from there...



Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming....

                                                                   WOW!!!   What a Ride!

 

Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />

WOW!!! What a Ride!


Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!

 

"Some days it's just not worth chewing through the restraints"
helena's picture

(post #54374, reply #24 of 46)

I'm in the south, closely to the German and Belgium border. And for some reason, I've never been to Edam, even though it's one of the most famous cheese cities of the country. Did you enjoy the Netherlands?

IMERC's picture

(post #54374, reply #26 of 46)

Oh yes... Learned a lot while I was there... Enjoyed the people and the country immensely like no other place in Europe..


A family I met there in Edam - Holland is their pride. Every time I showed up they had made arrangements for a private tour of something. I got to see windmills top to bottom - inside and out in extreme detail... Dike system... Tulip farms... Eel fishing.. The Horn.. Drawbridges... Delf... Cheese.. Cities large and small - 3 and four day guided tours... Craftsmans in their homes and little shops - how they worked their art.. 


From where I was in Germany It was only about three hours to Holland.... I went often...



Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming....

                                                                   WOW!!!   What a Ride!

 

Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />

WOW!!! What a Ride!


Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!

 

"Some days it's just not worth chewing through the restraints"
helena's picture

(post #54374, reply #27 of 46)

That sounds very nice, you must have met some real good people there :o). Where wer you in Germany if I may ask? I think Germany is such a beautiful country, and people tend to be polite and friendly..

IMERC's picture

(post #54374, reply #28 of 46)

Everybody I met in Holland were the best.... Felt like home...


I was near Frankfurt - Eschborne with a "time out" and sent to Vacenzia(sp?) Italy for a couple of years...



Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming....

                                                                   WOW!!!   What a Ride!

 

Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />

WOW!!! What a Ride!


Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!

 

"Some days it's just not worth chewing through the restraints"
helena's picture

(post #54374, reply #29 of 46)

You have sure travelled your way around Europe! What a wonderful opportunity :o). I'm glad you felt so welcome here, that is how I have always felt in the US when we were vacationing there. It really makes all the difference in the world...

IMERC's picture

(post #54374, reply #30 of 46)

Every chance I got I was off to some place for just over 7 years...


Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming....

                                                                   WOW!!!   What a Ride!


Edited 8/4/2004 2:39 am ET by IMERC

 

Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />

WOW!!! What a Ride!


Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!

 

"Some days it's just not worth chewing through the restraints"