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elizaram's picture

http://www.appliancehut.com/productdetails.asp?id=468

Just wondering if any of you have one of these, and can offer opinions. I'm thinking about it as a future purchase. I'm making a lot of bread at home, and my old KA starts straining toward the end of the kneading process as the gluten really gets developed (especially on bagel dough, or recipes with a lot of whole wheat flour). I'm having to finish kneading most breads by hand, which is very hard on my carpal tunnel.

All the reviews I've read of the Assistent have said that it is outstanding at kneading, taking on just about any dough with little effort (as well as being able to handle twice as much volume as a KA). That was enough to get it on my wish list... but it's a pretty major expense on a tight budget, so was hoping to find some current owners to tell me what they think of it.

Thanks in advance!




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Gretchen's picture

(post #55077, reply #1 of 14)

Why not just upgrade to a heavier duty KA (don't know what you have). Is this only for dough?

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elizaram's picture

(post #55077, reply #2 of 14)

Yep, this would only be for dough; the KA does a good job on everything else, but bread is what I use it for the most. I've got a 15 year old K5SS. They do make higher wattage ones now, but from what I've been reading they still struggle with wholegrain and high-gluten doughs. I've already stripped the gears on my KA once kneading a stiff dough, and have been very careful with it since. The Assistent is more expensive, but if it's as sturdy and as excellent with bread dough as I've been hearing, repair costs might even things out over time. :-)

It would get a LOT of use. We go through about a loaf a day around here.




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Jean's picture

(post #55077, reply #3 of 14)

Do an advanced search for magic mill. Discussed about 5-6 years ago and the folks that used them spoke highly of them.  

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Gretchen's picture

(post #55077, reply #5 of 14)

I think you could get a KA commercial grade for that. But you know best what you want.

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Ricks503's picture

(post #55077, reply #4 of 14)

Do an advaced search and use the EXACT PHRASE option and the input magic mill and search - a number of responses will come up

1 - measure the board twice, 2 - cut it once, 3 - measure the space where it is supposed to go        4 - get a new board and go back to step 1

 

 

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Sammy2's picture

(post #55077, reply #6 of 14)

I have it and love it.  There was mention with it in a KA thread where someone wanted to do bread and I mentioned the Magic Mill.  I think someone else here has one also.  When I make bread I do a lot of loaves, more than 3, and it handles it easily.  The manual states that it can handle up to 23 cups of flour. This machine doesn't walk like the KA does and I have the KA Pro 6.  I bought the MM specifically for making bread.  It makes other things okay but anything with butter tends to get stuck on the roller.  The whisk attachment works fine.  I wouldn't think about another  KA if you're even considering the Magic Mill.


Ask if you have any more questions.


Here's the other person that recommended it.  Posting name was Beebs


26525.22 in reply to 26525.12 

I believe the Magic Mill is now called the Electrolux Assistant. I have one also, and agree with everything Sammy2 said. It's fabulous for bread, not so fabulous for creaming stuff. I had thought it would replace my 4.5 qt. KA, but find I use them both. Luckily I have plenty of space. If you are looking specifically for a bread mixer, this is the one.


Sandy

 


Edited 2/13/2006 3:07 pm ET by Sammy2

Beebs's picture

(post #55077, reply #7 of 14)

Okay, I'm chiming in, although we've pretty much said it already. I often make 4 large loaves at a time (> 2 lbs. each) with the Electrolux, and it's a breeze. However, I do end up kneading by hand for a minute or two at the end. I don't know if it's really necessary, but figured I should mention it, since you seem to want to avoid that. I think I just like feeling the dough in my hands, and it would be fine with no hand kneading, but since I've never tried it, I can't really say. Would be interested to hear from Sammy1 on that subject.

It's also great for making double recipes of anything, because the bowl is so big. I always make 2 carrot cakes at a time now.

Sandy

jwn's picture

(post #55077, reply #8 of 14)

I've had one for about 6 years.  I got especially for bread and have no regrets.  It works well for a few loaves as well as at its top capacity.  You do have to stay with it as it kneads as the dough can climb the dough hook or migrate to rotate at the end of it as it kneads.  Make sure you get the dough hook with it if you decide on Magic Mill.  I think for a bread baker it would be better than the 6qt KA and you will have a large open bowl surface for additions and/or hands. 

elizaram's picture

(post #55077, reply #9 of 14)

Thanks guys, this has been very helpful! I didn't realize it had been discussed so much here, as I've never seen it mentioned in the time I've been lurking. Looks like my impression that this is the best choice for a serious bread baker is correct. I'll continue to keep an eye on ebay and hope to score a used one.




Never be afraid to try something new. Remember that a lone amateur built the Ark. A large group of professionals built the Titanic. --Dave Barry



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Sammy2's picture

(post #55077, reply #10 of 14)

I don't knead by hand at the end and I don't have a dough hook.  I just use the roller when I make bread.  I haven't had it climbing or moving anywhere but where it's supposed to. I always have my dough a bit more wet so maybe that's why it doesn't go where it's not supposed to.  This mixer definitely has a bit of a learning curve but it is wonderful.  Just read the manual and you'll have wonderful bread.  I hope that you do find one.

beebuzzled's picture

(post #55077, reply #11 of 14)

Aw, jeez. First the Sumeet grinder, now this. I tell you, my new kitchen will be running out of space even before I get the cabinets installed. This forum has put way too many shiny things on my wish list.

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Jean's picture

(post #55077, reply #12 of 14)

But all those nice shiny things do make a kitchen fun to work in. ;)

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Ricks503's picture

(post #55077, reply #13 of 14)

AND, if you get the shiny ones, they help to reflect the light and make the kitchen better lit and a safer place to work in.

1 - measure the board twice, 2 - cut it once, 3 - measure the space where it is supposed to go        4 - get a new board and go back to step 1

 

 

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Beebs's picture

(post #55077, reply #14 of 14)

I've heard from other people that they also don't use the dough hook, so last time I just used the roller and it worked perfectly fine. Don't think I'll bother with the hook anymore.

Sandy