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Gretchen's picture

First interview, just over.  Palin doesn't know what the "Bush doctrine" is--and if you don't know what it is, it is PRETTY important. WE CAN  INVADE YOU if we want.


She tried to answer "questions" with what she wanted to say about "our campaign to ________". And Charley asked again "without all the words".


She tried to do her stump speech, and not answer questions. Charlie kept on keepin' on.


More tonight. More tomorrow.  Some things remain to be revealed.


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MadMom's picture

(post #50849, reply #1 of 87)

I have to agree with you.  Of course, I'm sure the conservatives will say she did well, and she did answer some questions better than I expected, but she dodged a lot of them and gave "canned" answers to questions that weren't asked.  I'm going to record the Nightline interview and will definitely watch Charlie tomorrow.  He didn't lob the softballs I expected.


I was certainly disappointed in her response to the Bush Doctrine question.  She obviously had no idea what it was, and frankly, that surprised me.




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AnnL's picture

(post #50849, reply #2 of 87)

HELLO?!  The Bush Doctine?!  She doesn't know what that is?!  I almost fainted when she gave Charlie the blank look and asked him what he meant by the "Bush Doctrine".  I was very glad he didn't tell her until after she rambled on about something else.


I agree that Gibson did try to actually get her to answer the questions.  I found her scarier than Bush. "We must do whatever it take, without blinking an eye".  Personally, when it come to military action, I want  my leader to 'blink an eye" and think it through very carefully. 


I thought the editing was pretty poor and I would like to know what they edited out.  There were several times she was still talking but the sound cut out before the pic and then they cut to the next question.  Makes me really curious what she said.


She was obviously just speaking sound bites, not really answering questions.  I heard that Bush's "people" have been working with her to get her ready for press interviews.  She looked and sounded 'prepped'.


 


Ann
"The elders were wise.  They knew that man's heart, away from nature, becomes hard; they knew that lack of respect for growing, living things, soon led to lack of respect for humans, too."  Chief Luther Standing Bear, Lakota Sioux

Ann
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CulinaryArtist's picture

(post #50849, reply #3 of 87)

She looked and sounded 'prepped'


Like a good little politician should!!  So canned it was disgusting.  She is good tho, she said "Charlie" about 25 times!!  Tried to show her friendliness and approachability while being a staunch hawkish gun-toting whatever!  Just my 2 cents!


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AnnL's picture

(post #50849, reply #4 of 87)

Yes, I noticed the "Charlie" also. 

Ann
"The elders were wise.  They knew that man's heart, away from nature, becomes hard; they knew that lack of respect for growing, living things, soon led to lack of respect for humans, too."  Chief Luther Standing Bear, Lakota Sioux

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Gretchen's picture

(post #50849, reply #5 of 87)

Of course she was prepped. NO problem there. Just not very well.


Saying Charlie gives her the ability to be the VP?  Whoa.  I can practice. Where do I sign up!!  Is there some phonetics I should be aware of.


OH and by the way, she can't pronounce "nuclear" any better than GW, Jimmy Carter or Jim Lehrer, among others!!


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CulinaryArtist's picture

(post #50849, reply #6 of 87)

Missed that nuclear comment must have been cooking!  Gotta say she looked tired too, I'm sure she's struggling to stay on her game at this point, can't imagine being in her shoes, so much to prove. 


BTW I'd vote for you in heartbeat Gretchen!!


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kathymcmo's picture

(post #50849, reply #8 of 87)

Didn't see the interview but oh lordy, what is it about the word nuclear that trips up so many people?!? Wonder if it's something like not being able to roll your tongue or something.


 

Gretchen's picture

(post #50849, reply #11 of 87)

I have said it over and over about it--and other words. People of all stripes sometimes just cannot say them. My father said "chimley" all his life, and he was a well educated, well spoken man. It is a common thing to hear in my part of rural Ohio where I grew up.  It says NOTHING about the person, but everyone has been so gleeful to ridicule GWBush about it, I point out others of other stripes who also do it--hence Jimmy Carter of nuclear sub captaincy and Jim Lehrer.

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Lee's picture

(post #50849, reply #7 of 87)

I thought Charlie did a good job and that her performance was pretty pathetic.  The entire interview that aired on Nightline was worse than the partial interview aired on the evening news.  I almost felt sorry for her.  She's not stupid, but she was so obviously out of her depth, so obviously coached to parrot "this" answer to "that" question.  She failed to provide anything of substance and kept trying to slide past answering the questions by spouting campaign slogans and parts of McCain's standard stump speech.  She's good at that.  She came up with things that were so naive and sophomoric, I wonder if she even reads the newspapers.  I don't know about anyone else, but I'd like to smack John McCain upside the head for creating the possibility that our country could be placed in her hands.


And she says NUCULER! 


Edited 9/12/2008 12:25 am ET by lee

kathymcmo's picture

(post #50849, reply #9 of 87)

Just read this in the NYT from tonight's interview:


"Ms. Palin said that before a trip to the Middle East and Germany in 2007, her only foreign travel had been to Mexico and Canada, And, she acknowledged, she had not met any foreign leaders, though she said — in an apparent veiled reference to Mr. Biden — “We’ve got to remember what the desire is in this nation at this time. It is for no more politics as usual and somebody’s big fat résumé that maybe shows decades and decades in that Washington establishment, where, yes, they’ve had opportunities to meet heads of state.”"


Maybe she was digging at Biden, but can't the same thing be said about her running mate?

AnnL's picture

(post #50849, reply #10 of 87)

The other thing that disturbed me about her is that she said she never hesitated to accept the offer and never had any doubts about her ability.  That reminds me too much of Bush's uber confidence, never being able to admit he made a mistake.  I mean, don't most people have doubts?  Don't most people think over a change in jobs, and wonder if they're up for it?  Especially a "job" like this one!


Just another facet of her that worries me.


Ann
"The elders were wise.  They knew that man's heart, away from nature, becomes hard; they knew that lack of respect for growing, living things, soon led to lack of respect for humans, too."  Chief Luther Standing Bear, Lakota Sioux

Ann
"The elders were wise.  They knew that man's heart, away from nature, becomes hard; they knew that lack of respect for growing, living things, soon led to lack of respect for humans, too."  Chief Luther Standing Bear, Lakota Sioux

Syrah's picture

(post #50849, reply #12 of 87)

Would you admit to that in a job interview? I wouldn't.

My catchphrase has always been - "there is nothing I can't learn"

I believe in champagne...

"Life is not easy for any of us. But what of that? We must have perseverance and, above all, confidence in ourselves. We must believe that we are gifted for something, and that this thing, at whatever cost, must be obtained." -Marie Curie

AnnL's picture

(post #50849, reply #13 of 87)

This wasn't exactly a job interview, but I do get your point.  However, I've never been offered a job and then asked afterwards if i had any doubts before accepting it.  That's essentially what the question was.   :-)


And, yes, I will admit that I might not have the exact experience they are looking for, but I also emphasize that I learn very quickly and provide references from previous employers to verify that.  If she had shown any sign of introspection, I would have respected her alot more.


Ann
"The elders were wise.  They knew that man's heart, away from nature, becomes hard; they knew that lack of respect for growing, living things, soon led to lack of respect for humans, too."  Chief Luther Standing Bear, Lakota Sioux

Ann
"The elders were wise.  They knew that man's heart, away from nature, becomes hard; they knew that lack of respect for growing, living things, soon led to lack of respect for humans, too."  Chief Luther Standing Bear, Lakota Sioux

Syrah's picture

(post #50849, reply #14 of 87)

I appreciate that, and I guess my catchphrase expresses that point of view also.

Did you think her confidence could be construed as arrogance or ignorance?

I believe in champagne...

"Life is not easy for any of us. But what of that? We must have perseverance and, above all, confidence in ourselves. We must believe that we are gifted for something, and that this thing, at whatever cost, must be obtained." -Marie Curie

AnnL's picture

(post #50849, reply #19 of 87)

I didn't think it was arrogance, nor ignorance.  She told Gibson something like you have to be ready to jump at chances "without blinking" (there's that no time for thinking things through or introspection again!). 

Ann
"The elders were wise.  They knew that man's heart, away from nature, becomes hard; they knew that lack of respect for growing, living things, soon led to lack of respect for humans, too."  Chief Luther Standing Bear, Lakota Sioux

Ann
"The elders were wise.  They knew that man's heart, away from nature, becomes hard; they knew that lack of respect for growing, living things, soon led to lack of respect for humans, too."  Chief Luther Standing Bear, Lakota Sioux

Syrah's picture

(post #50849, reply #20 of 87)

So recklessness?

I don't mean to put you on the spot Ann. I'm just curious as to what you're thinking.

I believe in champagne...

"Life is not easy for any of us. But what of that? We must have perseverance and, above all, confidence in ourselves. We must believe that we are gifted for something, and that this thing, at whatever cost, must be obtained." -Marie Curie

AnnL's picture

(post #50849, reply #21 of 87)

No, that's OK.  You're forcing me to think it through, instead of just going with my initial visceral reaction.  Yes, I would say a touch of recklessness. 


I think also, a part of my reaction is based on an article I just read last week about the psychology of Bush and his "incompetent decisions".  One section in the article discussed how most people have to work our way through the choices that life gives us (introspection and reflection).  But, the "bully" (and this article likened Bush to a bully) has to always feel invulnerable and correct.  Her response just reminded me of that article.  She had to make sure everyone knew she was qualified for the job because she wouldn't want to feel inadequate or to have anyone else see her as inadequate. 


Ann
"The elders were wise.  They knew that man's heart, away from nature, becomes hard; they knew that lack of respect for growing, living things, soon led to lack of respect for humans, too."  Chief Luther Standing Bear, Lakota Sioux

Ann
"The elders were wise.  They knew that man's heart, away from nature, becomes hard; they knew that lack of respect for growing, living things, soon led to lack of respect for humans, too."  Chief Luther Standing Bear, Lakota Sioux

Syrah's picture

(post #50849, reply #22 of 87)

That's better. Your gut is good, and will usually tell you the right answer. I just prefer to have a reason behind it. Recklessness would be an absolute character flaw in that position, there is no doubting that.

It's a skill I still use in determining what about a politician I can identify with or not. I do remember seeing the first Prime Minister I can remember and seeing him as a happy, larger than life person. When he was "overthrown" for lack of a better word, I described his successor as mean looking to my parents. I was so not happy that he was the Prime Minister. That was 1991, and I was 10; but even know I still remember watching it on TV and not being impressed.

I believe in champagne...

"Life is not easy for any of us. But what of that? We must have perseverance and, above all, confidence in ourselves. We must believe that we are gifted for something, and that this thing, at whatever cost, must be obtained." -Marie Curie

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(post #50849, reply #23 of 87)

please, never mention that you were 10 in 1991 again - it's disturbing. ;-)

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Syrah's picture

(post #50849, reply #24 of 87)

Apologies Evelyn. ;-)

I believe in champagne...

"Life is not easy for any of us. But what of that? We must have perseverance and, above all, confidence in ourselves. We must believe that we are gifted for something, and that this thing, at whatever cost, must be obtained." -Marie Curie

evelyn's picture

(post #50849, reply #31 of 87)

Apologies accepted.  I'm just so glad you have that wonderful head on your shoulders!  Makes it ever so much easier to think we're of an age. :-)

There is no mistaking a real book when one meets it - it is like falling in love.  Christopher Morley

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Marie Louise's picture

(post #50849, reply #32 of 87)

About six months ago, I read an article about some behind-the-scene Saudi. Perhaps it was in Vanity Fair, perhaps in was about the Saudi royal family. I can't remember the details; it was about a major Arab power broker who knows everyone around the world. While it was not the main point of the article, they talked about how this person coached George Bush for about eighteen months before he began to run for president. EIGHTEEN MONTHS. They took him around the world, and he met w/ world leaders.

He prepared to run for president. She appears to have memorized her lines.

You can't cram for something this important, as her whole back-and-forth about Russia indicates.

Barack Obama may mutter and say um too much, but it is clear that he is THINKING about his answers. John McCain and Joe Biden also give thoughtful answers. She picked a paragraph she'd memorized and parroted it back to Charlie. All she thought about was which part of he script to use.

God help us all.

AnnL's picture

(post #50849, reply #33 of 87)

I'm still laughing about "you can SEE Russia from parts of Alaska" when asked how her experience with the Alaska National Guard prepared her for foreign diplomacy. 

Ann
"The elders were wise.  They knew that man's heart, away from nature, becomes hard; they knew that lack of respect for growing, living things, soon led to lack of respect for humans, too."  Chief Luther Standing Bear, Lakota Sioux

Ann
"The elders were wise.  They knew that man's heart, away from nature, becomes hard; they knew that lack of respect for growing, living things, soon led to lack of respect for humans, too."  Chief Luther Standing Bear, Lakota Sioux

Marie Louise's picture

(post #50849, reply #34 of 87)

And that understanding energy makes her qualified.

She is partly right, in that oil fuels much of the world's politics, but I'm scared this woman could actually charm and bluff her way into the White House.

Edited to add, I just have to keep reminding myself that Obama beat the Clinton machine, and no one thought her could do it. He is tough and scrappy.

BTW, earlier in this thread there were comments that they cut off parts of her answers. Apparently the whole interview will be shown tonight; those were just the trailers.


Edited 9/12/2008 10:55 am by Marie Louise

kathymcmo's picture

(post #50849, reply #37 of 87)

That was detailed in one of Bob Woodward's books. When W declared he wanted to run for president, his father called his old friend, Prince Bandar bin Sultan bin Abdul Aziz Al Saud (from the House of Saud and long-standing Saudi ambassador to the US at the time--he retired soon after we invaded Iraq), to tutor W and as you say, escort him around the world to meet various heads of state.


And Papa Bush also called on his old friend George Schultz to prep W for the debates and campaign in 2000, and Schultz in turn brought in Condi Rice to tutor W. W liked her so much he offered her a job in his administration, and the rest is history.


Now the White House Bushies are trying to do the same for Palin, but they have a much shorter time to do it in, because the campaign is so soon and she has to keep appearing with McCain or they can't draw very many people to attend.

MadMom's picture

(post #50849, reply #39 of 87)

I know that every candidate from either party is briefed before any debate or interview, to avoid any embarrassing gaffes.  I am just amazed that the briefing was so shallow and that so many questions were thrown at her for which she had no answers.  She reminded me of a beauty contestant, who when asked what was the most amusing thing to happen to her in the Miss America pagent, babbled on about bringing about world peace and curing world hunger.  (This actually happened, because the woman in question was a Miss Texas, many years ago.)  In other words, give the programmed answer, and if it doesn't fit the question, so be it.



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Gretchen's picture

(post #50849, reply #43 of 87)

Ummm. I think there is something amiss here because if I recall correctly GWBush had never been out of the US when he was elected. Anyone else remember it that way?  It was met with much derision.


http://www.consortiumnews.com/2000/102900a.html


 


Gretchen


Edited 9/12/2008 2:31 pm ET by Gretchen

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kathymcmo's picture

(post #50849, reply #44 of 87)

As I recall he had done some limited traveling when his father was in office, but not much. Far more than Palin though.

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(post #50849, reply #45 of 87)

I seem to remember he'd been to Mexico, but never to Europe (let alone Asia). Could be wrong.

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Gretchen's picture

(post #50849, reply #46 of 87)

Correct. It's in the link I posted.  He didn't even have a passport.  It doesn't make it admirable, of course. Just that the magazine article and the story about the Saudi prince are not correct.

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