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Biscuits's picture

I'm bored!  Let's shake things up a bit!  Time for a game - let's play...25 Things You Don't Know About Me.  It's easy.  Just give us 25 things that we don't already know about you.  Considering how long most of us have been together, that could be interesting.  Considering that some of us are fairly new, it will be a lovely introduction.  I'll go first to get you started.  No snickering...


1. I'm 37, and am the only red-head ever born in my family (in at least 4 generations) until my son came along.
2. I collect paper - stationary, fine writing paper, beautifully crafted note paper, that kind of paper.  I don't know why.
3. I'm married to a man who is far to good for me and makes me happier than I deserve to be. I keep waiting for him to wake up and realize this...
4. I think my son is the most perfect, wonderful, smart, funny, sweet, adorable, loving child in the universe.
5. I consider myself the luckiest woman on earth because of #3 and #4.
6. I do not like most people, I only tolerate them. However, 99.999999999% of people who know me would be shocked by that fact.
7. I hate telephones and wish we didn't have one.
8. I would love to have a motorcycle and would willingly give up driving a car to have one.
9. I used to belly-dance for extra money.
10. I still don't know what I want to be when I grow up.
11. I have been in lots of fist fights.
12. I am proficient with several types of weapons, but I hate weapons, and despise violence.
13. I enjoy physical labor - especially the kind that you get all dirty and sweaty from.
14. I love the Opera, but have no one to go with me, so I go by myself.
15. My idea of a nightmare is to run out of coffee.
16. I love rain and thunderstorms and cloudy days.
17. My favorite snack is popcorn.
18. My secret vice is earrings - I love them, espcially dangly ones.
19. I prefer silver jewelry over gold, and prefer semi-precious stones.
20. I once went to Mardi Gras with nothing on above the waist but body paint.
21. I love getting pedicures, so my toenails are always painted red and always well-tended, while my fingernails are short and unpainted and usually raggedy.
22. I LOVE sweaters - I had 60 at last count.
23. I hate bras and think the world would be a better place had they never been invented.
24. My favorite writer is Banana Yoshimoto; my favorite poet is Sylvia Plath.
25. The only sport I like is Hockey.


 


 


 


wtf    Biscuit

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Adele's picture

(post #40693, reply #1 of 420)

Gee, CLS, I knew a few of your 25, and furthermore, I don't think I have 25 things y'all don't know, but I'll try.

1. I'm dreading my next birthday.

2. I'm now a chocoholic instead of an alcoholic.

3. I sometimes spend the entire day in bed, reading. %>(

4. I'd rather read than do anything else.

5. Think people with long nails (like inches) are unsanitary.

6. I can't stand mess.

7. I cry easily (My face will swell for days watching Ghosts, no matter how many times I've seen it. I cried during Dumbo)

8. Hate, Hate, Hate, conflict.

9. Prefer gold over silver, love anything topaz (golden, not the fake blue- LOL))

10. I sleep with a tire iron under my pillow

11. I put eggs, like poached or fried, on a plate first to drain off most of the white part. I try to eat the yellow in one bite.

12. I too, am proficient (have medals) with weapons, and don't own a gun.

13. I can't tolerate rude children.

14. I want to know why Jimmy Stewart never saw a speech therapist. 15. Love football (pro) & soccer (used to play center forward)

16. When stationed at Cherry Point, I danced topless in a cage on a bar. Once. On a dare. I enjoyed it.

17. I never know what to say on a telephone.

18. Can't pin down a favourite author, have too many.

19. Love watching scary movies by myself in the dark

20. Fav snack is chips & dip, lots of dip

21. I hate wearing underwear, wear a bra only when going out of the house.

22. I FEAR mice & anything little & furry to include squirrels. (Even though I feed them- I never put food out if they are around)

23. I actually think I will win the lottery one day.

24. I still listen to Led Zepplin, full blast.

25. I once hit a curb with my car while checking out a roofer.

But, but, its SUPPOSED to taste like that!

But, but, it's SUPPOSED to taste like that!

kai230's picture

(post #40693, reply #3 of 420)

23. I actually think I will win the lottery one day.
24. I still listen to Led Zepplin, full blast.
25. I once hit a curb with my car while checking out a roofer.


Honestly, Adele, I think those three count for >25 :-)

Biscuits's picture

(post #40693, reply #5 of 420)

Hey, Kai!  I want to hear YOURS!!!!  Now, Miss!  Spill it!  And don't give us the wimpy stuff.  I know your life has had spicy moments. 


 


 


wtf    Biscuit

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kai230's picture

(post #40693, reply #11 of 420)

I think I told them all in a previous tell-all post.

Biscuits's picture

(post #40693, reply #13 of 420)

Let's have it again.  I missed it.  And don't think you can sneak by without telling all.   Because did I ever tell you that I have a SERIOUS character flaw?  It's called "relentlessness".  I will hound you, Kai.  And don't think I won't do it.  Ask my X-roommate, the Toad.  She eventually coughed up half of the rent and other fees she owed me just to get rid of me.  Ask my husband...you can't hide from me.  I'm silent, I'm quiet, but I'm relentless.  Most people just do what I want them to do because it shuts me up. 


So, spill - before it gets ugly...(said in all loving friendship! (g))...


You, too, Jean.  Don't forget, I know where you live...


And BTW - this is very cool!!!  I'm learning a lot about you guys that I didn't know.  I had no idea that ShoeChick and I had so much in common...



 


 


wtf    Biscuit


Edited 2/22/2003 11:51:49 PM ET by Biscuit


Edited 2/22/2003 11:52:49 PM ET by Biscuit

Ancora Imparo -

kai230's picture

(post #40693, reply #20 of 420)

I will hound you, Kai.  And don't think I won't do it.  Ask my X-roommate, the Toad. 


Well, that's cute :-)


OK, I've forgotten the rules, but 25 are more than I'll be able to think of, so here's three.


1. I used to rub my palms on the carpet until I was practically high--age 4. What is that? Noxious fumes or fun fabric? Very cool. My hands seemed numb. I was also asking the folks abt what is beyond God at that time.


2. I copied all artwork in 1st and 2nd grade from my GF--the art was biga$$ dark eyes, biga$$ red lips, and a flared skirt LOL! (Oh, and breasts!)


3. I reported a guy to the Principal when he (the guy) looked up my skirt--in Kindergarten when I upended over some Monkey Bars! Freakin' skirts. He got in trouble quite a bit for that type of stuff, but never for me, even tho he dogged me.


Really, that's enough!

Biscuits's picture

(post #40693, reply #21 of 420)

Nope!  You owe 22 more.  And that's tame stuff.  Come on, Kai - don't try to tell us you've had a boring life where nothing happened. 


You know, I should warn you it will be so much easier if you just give in...(G)  25 isn't hard.  Hell, I have dozens more things I could say!


 


 


wtf    Biscuit

Ancora Imparo -

kai230's picture

(post #40693, reply #22 of 420)

Girl, you are asking for a private email and you know how that annoys!


Here's #4: A GF and I stomped on Clarence Pendleton's desk when he was out of town.


See, I've already told you. :-)

MadMom's picture

(post #40693, reply #4 of 420)

Adele - I know I will win the lotto one day.  I am honestly surprised each time I wake up to find out I didn't win...how pathetic is that?

Things are going to get a lot worse before they get worse.
Lily Tomlin

plantlust's picture

(post #40693, reply #10 of 420)

1.  I don't read, I devour books(Harry Potter - 4 hrs, no potty breaks).
2.  I've never dated.
3.  I still don't know what I want to be when I grow up(except for being cash enhanced <G>).
4.  I've never met anyone that I actually HATE.
5.  I'm not a cat person, but for some reason they really like me.
6.  I kill yeast and indoor plants.
7.  I did really well for a first attempt at target practice w/pistols, one was a Magnum but I prefer archery.
8.  I've never owned an American made car.
9.  I can go through any kind of catalogue(kindof window shopping) and unerringly pick out one of , if not THE, most expensive item in said catalogue(I blame mother for this ability).
10.  I traveled to Australia, on my own, for a month, with only 1000USD to my name before I was 23.
11.  Unlike everyone else, I will win the MegaBigGame, PowerBall AND the Lotto(I may share).
12.  I don't have a television set.
13.  On an entry test for the military, I scored highest in Field Artillery.
14.  I've never been drunk.
15.  I don't like coffee.
16.  I toured the sewer system when I was in Paris but wasn't able to get to the Catacombs.
17.  I've occasionally dreamt in foreign languages.
18.  I've raced a DeLorean in my Volkswagen Bug (3 guesses who won).
19.  I'm first generation American.
20.  I have no living grandparents.
21.  I would love to travel to outerspace.
22.  I've been told I have an evil laugh and a warped sense of humor.
23.  I've never been to Middle or South America.
24.  I don't have a checking account.
25.  I don't smoke.


"A hundred years of alcohol leaving a body by any means possible is not a pretty sight." Artemis Fowl the Second

Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with parsley sauce, goat cheese garlic mashed potatoes, Galena Cellars Niagra grape wine & Pie Boss's apple crumble topped with Ruth & Phil's sour cream/cinnamon ice cream.

Jean's picture

(post #40693, reply #7 of 420)

Nothing new really-- just a few things I've learned, some on my own, some from others FWIW.


A few things I've learned over the years.


1. When people tell you not to worry because most things you worry about don't come true, -- what more reason do you need?


2. The best gift you can give your kids is the knowledge that their parents love each other.


3. Always send your children off to school with a hug and a prayer.


4. Money can't buy happiness, the most it can do is take the edge off your misery.


5. Forget about the dust.


6. Always have the coffee pot on.


7. Leave the vacuum cleaner in the middle of the floor so when someone stops for a cup you can always say you were about ready to clean.


8. If you don't have a dishwasher, hide the dirty dishes in your oven.


9. Learn to exercise discretion and develop broad shoulders and a thick skin.


10. To have a friend you have to be one.


11. Keep practicing saying the words "I'm sorry", "I forgive you" and "I love you" until you mean them every time.


12. Never reject a gift from a child.


13. Working in a garden or a kitchen can take your mind off you troubles.


14. You can't own too many books or too many compact discs.


15. Grandchildren are your reward for surviving parenthood.


16. Just when you begin to really LIKE your offspring they go off on their own.


17. Life isn't fair......when you can finally afford to buy steaks, the Dr says you shouldn't eat them.


18. There's not much that is better than a fine martini.


19. But then, I never met a beer I didn't like.


20. You're never too old to learn something new, but it might take a little longer.


21. You aren't really as young as you feel--look in the mirror, stupid!


22. Hang on to those old friends--with them you don't have to pretend.


23. Remember girls-- age is not the enemy, it's gravity! If you're over 60 never look DOWN into a mirror.


24. Bless the inventor of stretchy waist slacks, stretch jeans and cool flat shoes.


25. A quote from James Garner to finish up. "If I had known I was going to live this long, I'd have taken better care of my body!"


 


The quality of our later life will be determined by the life
we have already shaped.  -- Rose Kennedy   

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Biscuits's picture

(post #40693, reply #9 of 420)

Cheater, Jean!!!! Cheat, cheat, cheat!!!!  There are lots of things about you this Board doesn't know!  Spill 'em.  Let's see - like, is your husband the only man you've ever dated?  What did he do prior to retirement?  Where else have you lived?  How many children do you have?  What is your most hated food?  What did you always want to do/be that you haven't done?  Is  your bathroom finished (hee!)?  How many computers do you have?  What's your favorite hobby?  etc., etc. 


You forget, I've visited you.  I know how very interesting you are...


 


 


wtf    Biscuit

Ancora Imparo -

MadMom's picture

(post #40693, reply #2 of 420)

Verrrrrrry Interesting!  Although I think most of us could have easily guessed #3, #4, and #5 - so those weren't really things we didn't know.  Oh my...I don't think there are really 25 things about me that are worth knowing!  I'll try, though...


1.  This year I will celebrate 40 years of being married to the only man in the world who could have put up with me that long...and I'm hoping for 40 more!
2.  I have a degree in Petroleum Reservoir Engineering (3d woman in the United States to ever do that, by the way.)
3.  Went to four different colleges in one 12-month period, but still graduated ahead of schedule.
4.  I would love to go sky-diving.
5.  I was a certified SCUBA diver, but can't do it any more because of claustrophobia.
6.  I used to say I liked all music except opera and rap, then suddenly found I love opera, even though I've never attended one (I'll go with you sometime, Biscuit!)
7.  I spent 3 years working in a historically black college.
8.  I once fantacized about going to Cuba and fighting alongside Che and Castro, back when they were in the mountains (before most of you were born.)
9.  I'm almost paranoid, painfully shy, around people I don't know.
10. I would love to be able to dance really well.
11. I would love to be able to sing really well.
12. I took flying lessons and almost got my license before they closed down the aero club due to too many people flying into the mountain and destroying the planes.
13. I'm a pretty darn good navigator, can use a sextant and plot a good DR position.
14. I love to sail, but get deathly sea sick for the first few months.
15. I went to Mardi Gras in New Orleans and kept all my clothes on, although I did get groped in a gay bar (there's a message there somewhere.)
16. My favorite author is Barbara Kingsolver.
17. I read On Thermonuclear War as a teenager and know all about Country A and Country B.
18. My family came to Texas about 1830, before it was a Republic, and long before it was a state.  (For that matter, I have ancestors who were in the United States in the early 1600's, and could be a member of the DAR if I were so inclined.  I'm not.)
19. When I get depressed, I listen to Tchaikovsky's Symphony No. 6 (Pathetique), read some Sylvia Plath, and wallow in it...it helps, somehow.
20.  I'm a cheap drunk...one glass of wine, and I'm woozy. 
21.  I'm also a fool for sweaters...cannot resist them, but don't wear them that much.
22.  I have absolutely no interest in shoes...would gladly wear the same pair every day until they fall apart.
23.  I've never had a pedicure and cannot stand for anyone to touch my toes.
24.  I'm a very good shot, but despise guns.
25.  Whenever I am around either of my daughters, my three granddaughters, or my grandson, I am in awe of them.  I wish I could keep them happy and safe forever.


Things are going to get a lot worse before they get worse.
Lily Tomlin

UncleDunc's picture

(post #40693, reply #6 of 420)

Thanks, Biscuit. I like this game better than the one with the list of questions. This way I get highlight _my_ choice of eccentricities.

25 Things You Don't Know About Me (Although you may have suspected some of them.)

1. I've never seen the ocean from ground level, unless you count the Chesapeake Bay and the Gulf of Finland.

2. My secret vice is so vicious that I'll just go right on keeping it a secret.

3. I've dropped out of school at least four times.

5. I started writing FORTRAN programs in 1971 and stopped early in 1972.

6. One of my very earliest memories is the bonfire at Texas A&M.

7. I went to eight different schools before I got out of high school, and it wasn't because of disciplinary problems.

8. I don't work up to capacity.

9. I don't mop the kitchen floor. Or any other floor in the house either, but the kitchen is where you can really tell.

10. I'm the oldest of seven, three brothers and three sisters.

11. I'm the only one who has never married.

12. Whenever I go to a Chinese restaurant for the first time, I always order kung pao chicken, if they have it.

13. I do not like most people. I don't work nearly as hard as Biscuit does at hiding it.

14. I hate telephones. I wish I had one that could only be used to make calls. Not just an unpublished number, I mean one that there's no way anyone could call it.

15. People remember me as larger than I really am. Anyone who hasn't seen me in a while always says, "Oh, you've lost weight," even when I've gained weight.

16. I always claim to be Samoan on the census form.

17. I abhor change, except when I'm in pain. If I had been alive during the Reformation, I would probably have stuck with the Catholics, not for doctrinal reasons, but just to avoid having to change.

18. If we grow through adversity, I'm already as big as I want to be.

19. I don't answer the door unless I'm expecting someone.

20. When I discover a new author, I always read as many of his books as I can get in the shortest time possible, so they all jumble together in my mind. I eat hot buttered bread the same way, as much and as fast as I can stuff it in my mouth.

21. When someone asks to be transferred at the end of a phone conversation, I always tell them, "OK, here's the extension in case you get cut off," and then hang up.

22. I have a very low tolerance for other people's puns.

23. Despite my generally libertarian posture, I favor harsh restrictions on smoking, and savage penalties for violators. Same with socialism.

24. I skipped 98% of the poetry in The Lord of the Rings. My dad claims he read it all.

25. I think "The Curve of Binding Energy" comes as close to perfection as any book title I've ever encountered.


Edited 2/23/2003 3:57:21 PM ET by Uncle Dunc

Biscuits's picture

(post #40693, reply #8 of 420)

Uncle Dunc - the only thing I can think of is - wow!  I mean - wow. 


And somehow, I never pictured you as unmarried.


 


 


wtf    Biscuit

Ancora Imparo -

dixieleigh's picture

(post #40693, reply #24 of 420)

I hate telephones. I wish I had one that could only be used to make calls. Not just an unpublished number, I mean one that there's no way anyone could call it.


I have this one covered - a cell phone that I keep turned off unless I am ready to make a call.


 


 

 

 

UncleDunc's picture

(post #40693, reply #41 of 420)

I missed #4, so all you bra non-wearers have emboldened me to add

#4 I wear pants only when going out of the house. This is one of the reasons I never answer the door.

MadMom's picture

(post #40693, reply #42 of 420)

TMI, Uncle Dunc, but thanks for the visual.

Things are going to get a lot worse before they get worse.
Lily Tomlin

UncleDunc's picture

(post #40693, reply #47 of 420)

>> ... but thanks for the visual.

It's all in your mind.

To the pure, all things are pure.

MadMom's picture

(post #40693, reply #48 of 420)

Well, darlin, of course it was a pure visual!  (and I tried to put in a winky thing, but it posted before I could...I hate when that happens!)

Things are going to get a lot worse before they get worse.
Lily Tomlin

chiffonade's picture

(post #40693, reply #52 of 420)

OK, here goes.


1.  I didn't have one single solitary friend between my 16th and 17th year.


2.  When I was around 8 I could hum just about any opera there was.  Dad was a big fan.


3.  When I was a young teenager, most people thought I was a boy.


4.  My first real "drunk" was half a quart of Southern Comfort.  Still can't touch the stuff.


5.  I take shorthand at 100 wpm.


6.  I got 95 on my Secretarial Science Regents exam.


7.  I got my driver's license at 30 years old.


8.  The largest age gap between a non-serious boyfriend and me was 17 years.  I was older.


9.  The largest age gap between a serious boyfriend and me was 14 years.  I was older.  He was the love of my life before I met my DH.  I would have married him.


10.  In the 80's I would workout my abs by doing 150 roman chair situps, 3 sets of 70 hanging leg raises, 300 crunches.


11.  I can throw a perfect spiral.


12.  When I was younger, I wanted to be a vet.


13.  I wrote poetry. 


14.  My father was a frequent drunk driver which accounts for the delayed licensing mentioned above.


15.  I listen to alternative rock - it's my music of choice.  My daughter's friends love this when they get into my car.


16.  My first ever rock concert was Black Sabbath.  Aerosmith was opening.


17.  I went to a general admission Kiss concert in 1976 in New Jersey.  Of the group I went with, I was the only girl.  (And looking back, the only responsible party...sigh.)


18.  In the 80's I had repeated sex at the office. 


19.  My interest in my DH was picqued via a nekkid picture he sent me over ICQ.  I asked for more.


20.  I was a virgin until I was 20.


21.  I still hate XH-2 and can't for the life of me get past it no matter how hard I try or how wonderful things currently are (and have been for years).  This is the lone individual, personally known to me, on whom I wish harm.


(This is a lot easier than I thought...)


22.  I gave my brother a cherry sunburst Rickenbacher bass for Christmas in 1980.


23.  The current lead singer of Journey, Steve Augeri, gave me my first real kiss.  (And he's a better singer than Steve Perry.)


24.  I laugh in "ha's" - distinct, loud "ha's."  And I've been known to throw my head back during an especially hearty laugh.


25.  I have been arrested and spent a night in jail.  (They make you eat with a spoon.)

*You're a REAL person, eat REAL food."

Chiffonade

doyenne's picture

(post #40693, reply #55 of 420)

18.  In the 80's I had repeated sex at the office. 


Desktop or laptop?


I can't remember today what it was I  couldn't remember yesterday

Where is Monica Lewinski when you need her?

shoechick's picture

(post #40693, reply #12 of 420)

1.                  Met my husband on the phone.


2.                  Don’t really have any patience for children, unless they’re related to me or a cute little redhead I met in a Seattle hotel lobby.


3.                  Did start a fight in a biker bar by throwing a drink at my (ex) husband – he ducked.


4.                  Have a passion for shoes – Madmom – we need to talk


5.                  Love good wine


6.                  Secretly am a snob, but hate that trait in others.


7.                  Cringe when my husband asks for directions, I’d rather figure it out myself.


8.                  I get travel sick – who’d have thought with all the flying this year.


9.                  Am a true Taurus – crave the good things in live.


10.              Am a firm believer that someday I’ll win the lottery and that will take care of the line of credit.


11.              Believe retirement savings plans are for traveling now.


12.              Would hate to be cremated – it scares me


13.              Was recently told on my performance appraisal that if one word could describe me it would be sensitive, sensitive to people’s feelings and their needs, I think this is the greatest compliment I could receive.


14.              Firmly believe that you can never be too rich or too thin, unfortunately I’m neither.


15.            Am an excellent judge of character on a first meeting


16.              Have an extensive collection of Agatha Christie books, even a first edition (A gift from DH).


17.              My true passion is to travel


18.              Will have my heart broken if I’m not in Tuscany on my 40th.


19.              Love my mother with all my heart but sometimes wonder if I were switched at birth.


20.              Never, ever have I tried a drug other than alcohol.


21.              Am not a cheap date, at 19 I’d be drinking Grand Marnier in nightclubs all night.


22.              I spend thousands on clothes and leave then all over the floor.


23.              Figured out the Sandra and Peter thing way in advance – they are so right for each other.


24.              I actually think I can sing, DH likens it to dying cats.


25.              Closet Barry Manilow fan and still cry at Weekend in New England.



Born Free....Now I'm Expensive


Edited 2/23/2003 12:11:15 AM ET by ShoeChick

The World is a book, and those who do not travel read only a page.  ~St. Augustine

plantlust's picture

(post #40693, reply #14 of 420)

Sensitive AND a snob?

"A hundred years of alcohol leaving a body by any means possible is not a pretty sight." Artemis Fowl the Second

Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with parsley sauce, goat cheese garlic mashed potatoes, Galena Cellars Niagra grape wine & Pie Boss's apple crumble topped with Ruth & Phil's sour cream/cinnamon ice cream.

shoechick's picture

(post #40693, reply #15 of 420)

I'm talented, what can I say.  I think it's publicly sensitive and privately a snob.

Born Free....Now I'm Expensive

The World is a book, and those who do not travel read only a page.  ~St. Augustine

plantlust's picture

(post #40693, reply #16 of 420)

ooooo.  And diplomacy and political sense too. 

"A hundred years of alcohol leaving a body by any means possible is not a pretty sight." Artemis Fowl the Second

Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with parsley sauce, goat cheese garlic mashed potatoes, Galena Cellars Niagra grape wine & Pie Boss's apple crumble topped with Ruth & Phil's sour cream/cinnamon ice cream.

shoechick's picture

(post #40693, reply #17 of 420)

Actually I thought long and hard about what you posted and I've come to the conclusion that they are unrelated.  I'm a trainer with 90 staff in Vancouver and 150 in Calgary that I'm responsible for and they are where the sensitivity lies.  I'm passionate about their needs - but god forbid one of them should try and serve me wine out of a box!!!!  ( I guess they're not so unrelated after all ;))

Born Free....Now I'm Expensive

The World is a book, and those who do not travel read only a page.  ~St. Augustine

plantlust's picture

(post #40693, reply #18 of 420)

You would just hide your disgust well and then EDUCATE them.

"A hundred years of alcohol leaving a body by any means possible is not a pretty sight." Artemis Fowl the Second

Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with parsley sauce, goat cheese garlic mashed potatoes, Galena Cellars Niagra grape wine & Pie Boss's apple crumble topped with Ruth & Phil's sour cream/cinnamon ice cream.

shoechick's picture

(post #40693, reply #19 of 420)

Absolutely - I once did a 5 minute presentation on the correct way of opening a champagne bottle!  Too Funny!

Born Free....Now I'm Expensive

The World is a book, and those who do not travel read only a page.  ~St. Augustine

PeterDurand's picture

(post #40693, reply #25 of 420)

I'm passionate about their needs - but god forbid one of them should try and serve me wine out of a box!!!!

Now I am hurt. :)