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So, I bought a house :-)
Great old hardwood floors, original UNPAINTED wood trim throughout, 10' cielings, and enough space for my son to grow and me to have a real painting studio again AND a separate sewing and craft room.
Built 1922, but the last kitchen reno must have been in the early 1960's at the very latest.
But that's great-- it helped keep the price down, and now i finally get to design whatever I want!

No pictures to post, but here's some current stats:
-narrow layout: 15' x 9' (can you believe this is a huge improvement over my old smaller kitchen? lol)
-hideous medium dark wood panelling obviously applied over the old walls, with touches of typical wallpaper of the era- green/brown/yeller kettles and coffee pots.
-kitchen cieling has been lowered to maybe 8 or less
-top and bottom ovens built into wall (actually, wall bumps out to accomodate them) with separate cooktop jutting out in the "L" counter that bisects kitchen leaving narrow passage into second half.

I've tried searching the posts here at CT as i know some of you have reno'ed your kitchens in recent years, but i'm not seeing many pictures. As a very visual person, I need pictures to get me started. Please post pix of your favorite kitchen features, or links to helpful websites. A friend is bringing me an Ikea catalog when she comes back from Boston, and in the meantime I've been drooling over their stuff online.

I also welcome ALL advice!
Who knows, once I have a decent kitchen, i may actually start reading more of the cooking threads and forget the political ones! :-)

Marcia's picture

(post #50914, reply #1 of 179)

Congratulations! You might find the kitchen forums on GardenWeb helpful. I know that Aberwacky spent a lot of time there before she had her kitchen built. There are lots of pictures of her kitchen (it's large) as well as MarieLouise's, which is smaller but beautifully done.

msm-s's picture

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ooo! thanks!

Marcia's picture

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You're very welcome -- I'm only sorry that I cannot post links to the threads. Finding them may also be a challenge, but maybe not -- with this search function, it's hard to say.

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BTW- sorry about the typo in the title; up ealry and excited, typing while the coffee brewed.

And, the general style i like is clean lines, no molding on cab doors, blonde wood. Am considering a bamboo floor; are they good for kitchens?

MadMom's picture

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First, congratulations on your new house!  Next, we put bamboo in the kitchen, dining room, breakfast room, guest bath, pantry, entry hall, and laundry, and we love it!  I was a bit worried because some people said it shouldn't be put in a wet area, but we've had no problems with it anywhere.  My kitchen is probably 20' x 12', so is quite a bit larger, although still not huge.  I kept the original oak cabinets, but definitely changed out the outdated hardware.  Took down the yellow gingham wallpaper and the imitation tile backsplash and the heaven-only-knows-what countertop.  Painted the walls, put in small slate for the backsplash, and granite for the countertops.  Changed out the sink and put in a 48" Dacor stove, rather than a cooktop and wall ovens.  Put in a new dishwasher and used the fridge I had brought from Texas.  Might not be to everyone's taste. but I'm perfectly happy.  I have pictures, but also posted about it while we were doing it.



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can you link to the posts? would love to see the pix.
in menatime, what is your color scheme? what is your new backsplash? lighting?

I'm thinking bamboo floor, blonde wood cabinets, and a pale pale green for all painted areas; a bit warmer than sage green. Raise the ceiling back to 10' and add can lights over sink and work areas may need to lower the cieling a bit under 10' to conceal lights).
I'm not going to go for granite or other pricey countertops; they are lovely but in my budget, the money needs to go elsewhere and it's a relatively easy upgrade if I or a future owner wants them down the line. I haven't looked yet, but am shopping for something mid-price for countertops. Anyone have anything besides formica that they like?

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From what I've read recently, there are many new and beautiful laminates around now. What I cannot tell you is the price -- it's possible that some of them are very expensive, but they may still be affordable for you.


I know Marie Louise considered Formica but ended up using Corian with an integrated Corian sink. We had Corian for fifteen years and never had a moment's trouble with it.


Granite has come down so much in price that I cannot tell you which would be more expensive. Still, I understand that lots of the granite out there is of inferior quality and much is not technically granite but lesser stone which has been "treated",  whatever that may mean.

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Agree that you should live w/it awhile before changing.  Something else to keep in mind.  Since your house was built in 1922, odds are HIGHLY likely that the floor in your kitchen is wood.  Even more likely, since it IS a kitchen you may have maple or walnut (or even cooler maple & walnut striped!) flooring underneath the lineoleum.


I would suggest trying to remove some lineoleum (in an inconspicuous spot) to see if that's the case.  My kitchen is also a galley and when I finally removed the hideous split pea soup green tiles, LO I have maple floors!  Refinished them & my kitchen is a nice cobalt blue & white instead of split pea green EVERYWHERE. 


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okay, using keywords granite countertops and "From: Madmom", i have found many discussions on kitchen renos. Thanks! still not seeing any pix though- are they out there?

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Here are a few pictures of the finished kitchen.  Sorry, but I uploaded the wrong picture of the sink, taken before the backsplash was put in.  Also, you can see the old handles, etc., in the second picture, and the new ones in the third.  Third picture also shows the bamboo flooring.



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Oh, lovely! thanks so much for digging those up (and what a lovely view thru the window!).

Any lessons learned during the process?

MadMom's picture

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Definitely get lots of estimates!  We got estimates from half a dozen cabinet people, including the man who referred to me as "little lady" and all but patted me on the head while telling me I wouldn't understand math, the woman who misread 3/4" as 34 inches, the people who were so sweet, but had ugly countertops, the lady who gave me a great price but neglected to mention $17,000 in installation costs.  In the end, I kept the countertops I had, took down one to make room for my megastove, and was a happy camper.  I know you don't have that option, but definitely check around, and don't take someone's experience for granted.  Just be sure you know what you want.  When DD redid her kitchen, she bought stock cabinets from Lowe's, put pretty handles on them, and used Formica countertops.  It looks nice, and looks like it is about twice the size it was...so check that, also.



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MM, why does your kitchen always look like it belongs in Architectural Digest??  Your choice of colors pretty much mirrors my choices - Earth tones and natural textures and surfaces.


As soon as I can figure out how to get pix off my #&@^!@ Blackberry, I'll upload 2 pix of the new shower we just had done.  It's pretty much the same tile as you have in your backsplash but smaller.  I love those colors!  The slate looks so beautiful as light hits it.  The tile guy also used the slate mini tiles as a border around the bathroom and it ties the whole room together.


We are moving to Atlanta shortly and one of the criteria for any potential house purchase is a killer kitchen or one that needs very little "customization."  And when we look at houses, the real estate agent knows we see the kitchen last.  If I visit a beautiful kitchen first, the rest of the house can be falling down around its foundation and I'd shout, "We'll take it!!"


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Thanks for the compliment, but all good words go to Willie Ray, who cleans up after me!  We also put slate in our new bathroom, along with a gorgeous tub with the water coming in from the ceiling, and a shower with 24 shower heads and a steam unit.  Absolutely decadent.  I wanted to use honey onyx, but he wanted slate, and I really love it.  Put 6 x 6" tiles on the floor, and 1" square tiles around the tub.  Added a large furniture style vanity, all carved and pretty.  I love it. 



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OK, I have to ask. Who is 'we'?



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Who is 'we'?


My boyfriend and I.  (I don't dare attempt marriage again.)  He's a great guy and we've been together for just over a year and a half.  I met him at the last place I worked.  That company has since been sold.


We have had the best time.  He took me to Canyon Ranch in late July, a longtime dream of mine.  He's incredible.  His family is amazing.  Warm, kind people.


He wanted to have his own company doing financial transaction security (as he did in the company where we both worked) but found out early on that he wasn't entrepreneurial in the sense that he didn't like "advertising himself."  He's happiest as an employee.  He was offered a job in Atlanta and we recently went house hunting.  We should be moving within the next month or two.


I can almost taste Autumn.


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roz's picture

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First off, congratulations on your new purchase! Hope you and your son have many happy years of living in this house.

Only one bit of advice, live in the house for a good six months or more, before you remodel the kitchen. Sounds awful doesn't it? You will then know more of what you want for that particular house/space, how the light affects the kitchen area, etc. Do you want to eat in the kitchen or is there a separate space for eating? Just a few questions to ask.

I have wooden counters which I love. But if you want light colored cabinets, a wooden counter would be too much of the same thing.

Good luck, this should be a fun and anxiety producing venture! Go with it.

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msm-s's picture

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thanks! i said all advice is welcome, but naturally i can't actually take all of it :-)

Ordinarily, i would agree with you 100% about living with iot for a while before changing it, but The kitchen currently is icky and impractical (a vent-a-hood placed so low you cannot see into a large pot on the cooktop!), and i really want to do this thing ASAP. The kitchen has enough limitations due to the size and orientation that it is pretty simple to visualize a few best re-configurations. I've been plotting for a new kitchen long enough that I have a basic idea of what i want, and i am able to see potential pretty well, so i am mentally ready to start making decisions around the closing date in a few weeks.

I'm just having fun looking at ideas and gathering momentum before we do this thing. I sort of know what I want, but there's always another excellent idea out there!

I like the idea of real wood countertops! no such thing as "too much of the same thing" in a small room, IMO. It keeps the atmosphere quiet and simple.
To answer you- the kitchen is semi-bisected and had a very small eat-in area, which is a bit of a waste since it is next to the good-sized dining room.
A north window over the sink and near the door let in a medium amount of light in the daytime. A hideous bare and old flourescent fixture in the middle of the ceiling is the only light.

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Congratulations! I'm sure (post #50914, reply #179 of 179)

Congratulations! I'm sure you'll do a great job with the revnovation.

I've done two kitchens in the last several years. The first one was in an existing house and we gutted the kitchen. The second, we built a house. I've repeated some of my favorite appliances in the second kitchen that I really liked. My second kitchen is much bigger than the first so I was able to do everything I wanted.

The last photos are features I really liked and was able to do in this kitchen - pull out drawer for baking pan storage, cabinet with dividers for baking sheet, etc storage, knife slot in the countertop, pull out wine rack, and the upper cabinet spice rack.

I can't seem to post photos, I've tried several times. So, here's the link to my webshots album.

Eve

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I LOVE your kitchen!! Of course, it's bigger than my entire downstairs, I think.

I especially like the cabinet and drawer for baking sheets, etc. Brilliant!

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Oooh, congrats on the new house.  And, congrats on having a kitchen to remodel!  :-)  I'll have to take some pics, probably not until tomorrow or maybe even Monday, as I'm off to BBQ in a few minutes.  But, I wanted to say that my hands down absolute FAVORITE feature in the kitchen I remodeled last year is the raised dishwasher!  No question about it.  Leigh did it in her kitchen and insisted I do the same.  It makes loading and unloading the dishwasher soooo much easier, especially since I'm height enabled.  But, even my short friends like it!  The kitchen designer I worked with and even the contractor both thought I was nuts, kept asking me "are you sure you want to do this?".  I am so glad I did.  The counter top over the dishwasher is not a "workspace", but it's great for piling up the dirty dishes, the coffee maker is up there, when I use the food processor i have it up there, so it's still usable in many ways.  


If you do search for Leigh's thread on her wonderful kitchen, you should be able to find the pics of her kitchen. 


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msm-s's picture

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now, that's the sort of ingenuity i'm talking about! i'd never heard of that, but it makes excellent sense! and as you say, good place to keep the juicer and food processor. or sumpin'.
Is it a special model, or just an ordinary one mounted differently?
I'm still going to try to do the kitchen asap. I'm soliciting ideas from you guys and friends, my realtor is letting me in and we're meeting with a group of fanastic ladies over there next wednesday afternoon to brainstorm further.

AnnL's picture

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Regular dishwasher, just raised up, so there's just a box under it for it to sit on.  I believe Leigh's cabinet maker made a drawer under hers, for extra storage.  I have since heard that some dishwashers are now coming with a drawer underneath it, so check that out. 

Ann
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Ann
"The elders were wise.  They knew that man's heart, away from nature, becomes hard; they knew that lack of respect for growing, living things, soon led to lack of respect for humans, too."  Chief Luther Standing Bear, Lakota Sioux

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First, congratulations on your house!


I'd suggest measuring every little bit of your kitchen precisely, and then booking a kitchen design at Home Depot and/or Loews. These used to be free, and likely still are. You will spend the time measuring, which you'll have to do anyway, and then about 1.5 hours with a designer. In this time you'll learn a lot about your wants and needs, and about what you absolutely cannot have without major renos. All good stuff. Then you'll have a great idea of cost and options. By going to two places, and keeping an open mind, you'll have lots more advice. The designer brings up a lot of issues you may not have considered.


We've installed two Home Depot kitchens ourselves but had our last one installed by HD. Well worth the money; beautiful finishing.


I don't know, but Ikea may do design online too, so definitely check that out. I've heard a lot of good things about their kitchens.


If money's an issue, check out more reasonable magazines (e.g., "Style at Home" in Canada vs "House and Home").


Keep us updated!

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Here's our kitchen, which we designed and I built a few years ago. Sort of Shaker inspired. Cherry cabinets, soapstone counters, slate floor, Kenmore appliances, Blum slides, Brusso pulls and hinges.


 

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roz's picture

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Love the soapstone sink and your doggie matches the cabinets!

Edited to say Great Job!


Edited 9/21/2008 1:10 pm ET by roz

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KarenP's picture

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  I LOVE the woodgrain. It gives such depth and texture. It's a beautiful room.  Great job!
  I just noticed! It came with a matching dog!  He's a handsome guy.


Edited 9/21/2008 1:23 pm by KarenP

MadMom's picture

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Beautiful!



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Nicely done.  I'll bet you love working in it.  I love the cherry cabinets.  The handles are perfect with them.

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Some pretty amazing kitchen pictures we're getting.


But I got a design question - and please don't take offense.


Why are these kitchens being built with such beautifully figured and finished woods along side of incompatible white windows, trim and doors?


To me, it says this (again I'm sorry if your fellbads are hurt):  "We spent all of our money on the fancy cabinets and had to make up the difference with cheep trim, windows, and doors."


Once the DW made me put white trim in a kitchen we redid.  (I fought the subject, but you all know how that turned out.)  But what I did was to use solid oak for the trim, fully stained and finished, and then filled and painted white.  (But the rest of the kitchen had new painted cabinets with that raw umber glazing that matched nicely with the white.  And the designer brought it all together with some nice borders and curtains.)


Why oak?  Because underneath the painted white trim is normally either very inexpensive fingerjointed pine, popular, or MDF.  Soft woods.  When one bangs into them with a chair, keys, purse, whatever, it leaves a pernament indentation.  Hardwoods don't do that.  (Although oak is some pretty hard stuff to properly paint white.)


Other lived in houses I've seen with white trim have these "character scars" all over.  I find them quite unsightly.  When we have been relocated, I always walk away from every single white trimmed house shown to us.


But what am I missing?  There's gotta be some reason the rest of the world does this that I fail to understand.  And I fully understand that some believe that a good paint job of trim requires more work than stain and poly.  But why do it if it's gonna age 10 years over the next month?


Is there anyone left that I haven't offended so much that can answer this?