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POLITICAL- McCain picke Sarah Palin

msm-s's picture

(post #50757, reply #1 of 741)

sorry about the typo in the thread name.

He got smart enough to pick a woman, but i think even Republicans won't like the idea of this young, former beauty contestant becoming president if McCain kicks the bucket in office.

thecooktoo's picture

(post #50757, reply #5 of 741)

>He got smart enough to pick a woman, but i think even Republicans won't like the idea of this young, former beauty contestant <


That is exactly what Napie was talking about, and so have I on more than one occasion.  McCain makes a decision that involves a woman and you refer to her as  a former beauty contestant, not as the governor of one of our fifty states.  SHE'S THE ELECTED GOVERNOR OF ALASKA.  I'll bet money if Obama had selected a female governor  you would scream bloody murder if anybody referred to her as a beauty contestant winner, even if she was.


You talk about getting pissed off when Napie posts a statement and then you post a comment like that.  Shame on you.


Jim


 

Napie's picture

(post #50757, reply #8 of 741)

Come on Jim, you know the double standard here.  But we just keep coming back for more...

msm-s's picture

(post #50757, reply #20 of 741)

Point taken, but the news was breaking and the beauty contestant part was one of only 3 things they said about her in the short interruption.

Believe me, if Hillary had won the nomination and all I'd heard was that her running mate was going to be the young gov of Alaska, ultra-conservative and a former Mr. Universe runner-up, I would have posted that too! :-)

BTW- I don't think Palin really is a smart choice. I think it was smart for McCain to consider putting a woman on his ticket, but this particular choice sounds pretty desperate. I don't know much about her yet, but if he was picking her just to get the PUMAs, then it's going to backfire on him. The Sisterhood of the Travelling Pantsuits seems to be appeased by Hill's kick-a$$ speech and happy to back Obama now; has McCain not been paying attention? No woman would have gotten him those votes now, so he's stuck with
this person who's other qualities don't appear to be particularly strong, VP-wise, even if you are an insider-hating ultraconservative.

Interesting concept, Kathy. Or maybe she's the only one who hasn't turned him down?

I respect ICDeocean's right to avoid political threads, but she claimed to not think this election was interesting or historical enough to be of any great signifigance <g>.

Wow. Wow wow wow!

shoechick's picture

(post #50757, reply #23 of 741)

Ok, beauty queen or not, the women should be shot for her kids names..... Track, Trig, Bristol, Willow and Piper?

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laserbeam's picture

(post #50757, reply #28 of 741)

LOL!!!

msm-s's picture

(post #50757, reply #29 of 741)

LOL. She must have been a hardcore hippy before becoming a republican.

Heather's picture

(post #50757, reply #33 of 741)

A lovely girl named Piper grew up on our street so I'm OK with that one. But Trig? Track? They sound like high school activities.

Napie's picture

(post #50757, reply #32 of 741)

Why do liberals dislike beauty contestants so much?   Really, I just want to know.  I mean you all seem to love Hollywood types and I don’t get the difference.

MadMom's picture

(post #50757, reply #34 of 741)

Only you two conservatives made a big point about her being a beauty contest winner.  I believe that the senior senator from Texas was once a cheerleader at UT, but no one could say she doesn't have experience.  This woman was just a veiled attempt to pick up the PUMA vote, what little of it there is left.  McCain certainly lost inexperience as a talking point.



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moxie's picture

(post #50757, reply #36 of 741)

Those VP debates are going to be something to see, that's for sure.


 


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msm-s's picture

(post #50757, reply #37 of 741)

ROTFLMAO! for sure!

AJ12754's picture

(post #50757, reply #191 of 741)

I can't wait.

The trouble today is that almost everyone is famous and almost no-one is interesting. (paraphrased Tina Brown)

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Napie's picture

(post #50757, reply #38 of 741)

In fact we did not mention it first, no matter.  I’m not happy with his choice, but then I was never happy with him to begin with.  A dark day for conservatives to say the least, “W” has now finally finished with the destruction of my party, I blame him for all of this.    


 


I have some conservative friends that view Obama as the next Jimmy Carter who will pave the way for a real conservative to emerge and lead the GOP back to its roots, maybe, who knows.

msm-s's picture

(post #50757, reply #40 of 741)

I mentioned it first, and to be fair, thecooktoo made a valid point. but I wasn't harping on it. As I explained, it was what the brief news blurb said, and indeed, if the genders had been switched, i'd still find it funny enough to post.
Again, it's pretty much code for a thin resume.

AJ12754's picture

(post #50757, reply #192 of 741)

So how come no "real conservative" managed to get himself nominated this year -- the slate of doofuses the GOP had to pick from is the only reason McCain is still standing.


And who are you thinking might pop up in the next four years?  Jeb?


Ha.


The trouble today is that almost everyone is famous and almost no-one is interesting. (paraphrased Tina Brown)

Cave obdurationem cordis

LAgardener's picture

(post #50757, reply #195 of 741)

I am shocked at the level of discourse in this thread. After all the juvenile name-calling (e.g., "doofus")and superficial denigration, most of the responses come down to this: I'm right and I'm not going to think about it. No facts will alter my views.

How is one to respect such a position?

msm-s's picture

(post #50757, reply #198 of 741)

Take it with a grain of salt; mostly it's civil, but consider it more conversational than formal, with some choice words thrown in for impact, humor, or to express simple exasperation. also, there's a bit of a history of animosity betwixt certain CTers that is brought to the table.

The meat of the discussion has been fascinating.

AJ12754's picture

(post #50757, reply #223 of 741)

You're certainly entitled to your opinion.  Although I notice that you didn't address the substance of my post -- just the phrasing of it.  Which of the other GOP candidates do you think could have won the general election?


The GOP was stuck with McCain as the only viable option in November.    They don't like it and his gaffes ("oh -- they're Cindy's houses") and poor judgment (the subject of this thread) aren't helping him any.



The trouble today is that almost everyone is famous and almost no-one is interesting. (paraphrased Tina Brown)


Edited 8/30/2008 4:11 pm ET by aj12754

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Marie Louise's picture

(post #50757, reply #202 of 741)

You are correct; they did not nominate someone from the conservative wing of their party.

moxie's picture

(post #50757, reply #42 of 741)

I bet Kay Bailey is beyond furious.

"I have always relied on the kindness of strangers." - Blanche Dubois

msm-s's picture

(post #50757, reply #35 of 741)

I don't dislike them.
I just found it interesting that NBC couldn't dig up a third more pertinent thing to say about her in their breaking news blurb. I just typed what I was hearing.

Edit to add: using it in breaking news is a sign of a very thin resume.


Edited 8/29/2008 12:21 pm ET by msm-s

Biscuit's picture

(post #50757, reply #60 of 741)

Because MOST of them - not all - but MOST of them trade on their looks to get by the hard parts of life, instead of brains.  I despise people like that.


AND STOP WITH THE "LIBERAL" LABEL@!!!!  WE AREN'T ALL LIBERAL!!!!


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Napie's picture

(post #50757, reply #78 of 741)

Yes you are, you show it by your policies and who you back.  Sorry just calling it like it is.

msm-s's picture

(post #50757, reply #79 of 741)

Life is so much easier when you can just throw out the facts and paint everyone with the same brush, isn't it?

AJ12754's picture

(post #50757, reply #190 of 741)

It's about judgment.


Obama picks Biden. McCain picks Palin.  And why?  Because she's commander in chief of the Alaska National Guard ... as his PR flack kept reiterating on the Today show this morning. 


No need to second-guess my vote ...McCain's bad judgment is only surpassed by that of the current occupant of the White House.  I'll stick with Obama.


 


The trouble today is that almost everyone is famous and almost no-one is interesting. (paraphrased Tina Brown)

Cave obdurationem cordis

cookie1's picture

(post #50757, reply #71 of 741)

Kay Bailey Hutchinson admitted to MSNBC that she didn't know very much about her.

Cheryl


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msm-s's picture

(post #50757, reply #136 of 741)

Thank you for finally explaining that your vote is committed to one particular issue. With all due respect, it was frustrating to you and to me and others when you were trying to dismiss Obama for reasons that, frankly, don't float.

But I have a real problem with one-issue voters in a presidential election when the issue is relatively minor, highly special-interest, or IMO has no business on a presidential agenda, as with the Choice/Life quagmire.

Take the Right to Life issue, for eg. If we vote for the candidate with the best healthcare plan and education plan, it could concievably reduce unwanted pregnancies and thus, abortions. If we vote from the perspective that we are stewards of the earth and our fellow man, it is likely that many other problems could resolve themselves.

Marie Louise's picture

(post #50757, reply #6 of 741)

I had to go to the FOX news website to find out anything about her:

She's a good choice. Great, actually. I'm delighted. Few diehard Hillary supporters will vote for a ticket that will overturn Roe v. Wade. She has no national experience, so what does that say about her ability to be commander in chief if something were to happen to McCain? They can scratch that Obama inexperience argument. And I'm not sure what it says about her family values that she went back to work three days after giving birth to a baby-especially one w/ Down's syndrome. Now I'm not a mother, but as a voter, I do not like what that tells me about her judgement and priorities.

From FOX:

"Born in Idaho, Palin moved to Alaska with her parents, to Charles and Sally Heath, when she was 3 months old.

She grew up in Wasilla, just outside of Anchorage, and played on the Wasilla state championship girls’ basketball team. She was crowned Miss Wasilla in 1984 and was a runner-up in the Miss Alaska pageant.

Palin studied journalism and political science at the University of Idaho and graduated in 1987. She eloped with her high school boyfriend, Todd Palin, in 1988 to save money on an expensive wedding. She helped out in her husband’s family commercial fishing business and appeared occasionally as a television sportscaster.

Palin won a seat on the Wasilla City Council in 1992 as a new face and a new voice, and by opposing tax increases. Four years later she was elected mayor at 32 by knocking off a three-term incumbent. At the end of her second term, party leaders encouraged her to enter the 2002 race for the Republican nomination for lieutenant governor. Against veteran legislators with far more experience, Palin finished second by fewer than 2,000 votes, making a name for herself in statewide politics. She was elected Alaska’s youngest and first woman governor in 2006.

Sarah and Todd Palin have five children: boys Track, 19, and Trig, 4 months, and daughters Bristol, 17, Willow, 13, and Piper, 7. Track Palin joined the Army last September and will deploy to Iraq on Sept. 11. Palin gave birth to Trig, who has Down syndrome, in April and returned to work three days later."

Canuck's picture

(post #50757, reply #10 of 741)

<I'm not sure what it says about her family values that she went back to work three days after giving birth to a baby-especially one w/ Down's syndrome. Now I'm not a mother, but as a voter, I do not like what that tells me about her judgement and priorities. >


Wow. Some people take longer weekends than her maternity leave. I am a mother, and that horrifies me. Surely, if something was pressing, she could do it from home for even a short time?