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new eatery in Mumbai(not Dubai-sorry)

Rhea's picture

...sorry, reading two newspaper articles at once and had a momentary lapse of brain power...my appologies to all...long day...:) 


http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/21082006/6/n-odds-s-producers-opened-eatery.html


 a wise woman once said you have to kiss alot of frogs before you find your prince.. my lips are sore...p.s. but I finally found one!!!

I can't even afford the lifestyle I don't want...

mangiaFagioli's picture

(post #45984, reply #1 of 24)

...in remarkably bad taste, even if the 'intention' was, according to the owners, not malicious but just to be different. The reporter did not apparently ask if they knew who Hitler was or what he had done. I try to take 'reasonable doubt' approach to these things but it's hard

assibams's picture

(post #45984, reply #2 of 24)

Totally bad taste (pun intended). And I don't get what Hitler has to do with anything culinary (or India). I, too, hope this idea flops sooner than later.


Be yourself. Everyone else is already taken.

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Rhea's picture

(post #45984, reply #3 of 24)

Maybe this is just my opinion alone, but I feel that school's in any country should of course teach their children about their own country's history, but along with that there should be mention of the many number of large scale "cleansings" of  humans in the past.  If this eatery is allowed to remain open due to the lack of outcry from this country's/city's people, I will truly be even more disgusted....


I wonder what would happen if someone opened a restaurant  in Mumbai resembling a blown up railway car with body parts stuck to it,...and had a slogan saying..."just here for a blast.." 


 a wise woman once said you have to kiss alot of frogs before you find your prince.. my lips are sore...p.s. but I finally found one!!!

I can't even afford the lifestyle I don't want...

Adele's picture

(post #45984, reply #4 of 24)

just here for a blast.." 


It would probably get as much attention as this restaurant....and make money too.


But, but, it's SUPPOSED to taste like that!

But, but, it's SUPPOSED to taste like that!

Rhea's picture

(post #45984, reply #6 of 24)

so sad , but true..

 a wise woman once said you have to kiss alot of frogs before you find your prince.. my lips are sore...p.s. but I finally found one!!!

I can't even afford the lifestyle I don't want...

Marcia's picture

(post #45984, reply #5 of 24)

I read something yesterday in the Wall Street Journal about an establishment which opened in 2000 in South Korea, and was named Hitler Techno Bar & Cocktail Show. After many protests, the owner changed the name to 'Ditler' and then to 'Ceasar'.


Am somewhat comforted that the South Koreans found the name objectionable.


Evidently, info and a picture of said establishment can be found at a site called PusanWeb.com, but I couldn't navigate the site very well.

Rhea's picture

(post #45984, reply #7 of 24)

...interesting...just can't  imagine what it would be like to be a survivor of such a horrific time and have to see places like this open up...


 a wise woman once said you have to kiss alot of frogs before you find your prince.. my lips are sore...p.s. but I finally found one!!!

I can't even afford the lifestyle I don't want...

Marcia's picture

(post #45984, reply #9 of 24)

just can't  imagine what it would be like to be a survivor of such a horrific time and have to see places like this open up...


Agreed.

butterscotch's picture

(post #45984, reply #8 of 24)

This is so outrageous and disgusting that at first I thought it was a practical joke. I remember reading that during WW II there was considerable pro-German sentiment in India that the Nazis made every effort to exploit, providing funding to pro-Nazi Indian political parties. Evidently, the pro-Nazi parties were attractive to Indians because they served anti-British, anti-colonialist sentiment. It's hard to believe, though,  50 years after the British pull-out that any Indians could still be sympathetic to fascism.

Rhea's picture

(post #45984, reply #10 of 24)

very ,very sad...makes you understand how in some countries it is still very much acceptable to 'cleanse' certain groups of people that are  deemed to not be worthy of their life...my grandparents often wondered which generation would finally learn from the horrids of history...

 a wise woman once said you have to kiss alot of frogs before you find your prince.. my lips are sore...p.s. but I finally found one!!!

I can't even afford the lifestyle I don't want...

unbaked's picture

(post #45984, reply #11 of 24)

I would be tempted to yank that awning down with my teeth if necessary. I coldn't walk by a place like that without wanting to b-slap the owners and I have never struck anyone since my brother and I were small.


I don't care WHERE they are or if the swastika has its roots whereever, it is a cheap, boorish attempt at making a profit through notoriety. No one who knew enough to name it that way and use the Nazi colors didn't know what they were doing.


I grew up with children of survivors. My 21 year old father was in a concentration camp liberation party in 1945 and couldn't talk about it until he was in his 70's, but he sat us down in front of every documentary on the Holocaust that came on TV while we were growing up.


That is simply revolting. What kind of idiot could think that the mental image of 12 million murdered people would spark an appetite? It makes me naseous.


Maybe they'd like to start a chain of restaurants? Maybe something to do with other lesser-known but nonetheless bloody genocides? I'm sure they could get some media mileage by opening a nice place for Idi Amin fans. or how about Stalin's Steakhouse, etc etc etc...geez, this just beats all.


Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it.


'The desire to make an effort to improve the lives of those around you does not yet live in everyone, but it does live in everyone who cooks.' -Bill Penzey, one magazine

'The desire to make an effort to improve the lives of those around you does not yet live in everyone, but it does live in everyone who cooks.' -Bill Penzey, one magazine

Rhea's picture

(post #45984, reply #12 of 24)

Great news!


In the Toronto Star today it was reported that the small Jewish community approached the owner and explained to the idiot just how offensive his idea was.


He has now agreed to re-name the place, he says he never intended to hurt anyone( what an ignorant a**!), but I can bet you every dollar I will make in my lifetime that the owner will never even have the slightest clue of what the Holocaust was.....The only two times in my life where I picked up my fist to slug someone was when a "friend" in my English class  drew a swastika on my notebook and a neighbour  called me a F****** D**** J**. if this guy was infront of me I would surely be tempted once again....


My neighbour and friend here in Toronto introduced me to her late Father and he would sit for hours just before his death and tell me the most incredible stories of his escape from the camps and near death living in the forest...Sometimes my Mother will say it is hard to believe there is a God when things like this happen....I wonder how humans can take the gift of their own life and live it in a way that would be so opposite of what God wished for us...when all the survivors are no longer here, who will tell the stories....?


 a wise woman once said you have to kiss alot of frogs before you find your prince.. my lips are sore...p.s. but I finally found one!!!

I can't even afford the lifestyle I don't want...

butterscotch's picture

(post #45984, reply #13 of 24)

Thank goodness! What on earth did he mean by saying that he wanted his restaurant to be different "in the way that Hitler was different"? 

Rhea's picture

(post #45984, reply #14 of 24)

...apparently he thought that because Hitler was "different" in his way of thinking that it would be great for him to use his likeness to show that his place was different....I'd like to shove a table setting for 12 up his a**.....

 a wise woman once said you have to kiss alot of frogs before you find your prince.. my lips are sore...p.s. but I finally found one!!!

I can't even afford the lifestyle I don't want...

mangiaFagioli's picture

(post #45984, reply #15 of 24)

My mom, who is a survivor (she was in Auschwitz for half a year in 1944 and in another camp, Weisswasser, afterwards - I lost 3 grandparents in Auschwitz, uncles, aunts, uncountable other relatives), cannot let a day pass in her life, I don't believe, that she doesn't have to talk about it. She's 85 and since retiring (she was a physician) she has spent all her time writing (a book of recollections aimed at children, and a number of stories and articles) and lecturing about it. At 85 she still does maybe 30 lectures a year and this past spring took a group of high school students on a grueling, for her, visit to Auschwitz. It is, by a long margin, the formative experience of her life. I think a most difficult thing for her is to deal with not so much ignorance, but holocaust deniers.

Knowing how truly haunted she has been these last 60+ years, I cannot help, whenever I meet any of a number of people from different backgrounds (Armenians, Cambodians, Bosnians, others) but wonder at what memories they are, usually silently, living with. Most of the world forgets as soon as it's out of the news. But much of the world lives with unspeakable horrors

Also, I'm always wondering what the 'other' side lives with, people who committed atrocities or witnessed them and did nothing (perhaps could do nothing). I had a wonderful girlfriend in college whose parents had been Nazis, and every time I met them there were either implicit apologies or justifications in everything they said to me. But they would tell me nothing.

Okay, nickel just ran out. Sorry.

Rhea's picture

(post #45984, reply #16 of 24)

Ursula Hegi wrote a great book about growing up with german relatives who were in the SS...title has slipped my mind..I have it at home...The greatest way to honour those who perished it to keep the memories alive and do everything in one's power to never, never,never allow it happen again to anyone!


God bless her for what she has done....she probably has never said..."..but I am only one person..." 


 a wise woman once said you have to kiss alot of frogs before you find your prince.. my lips are sore...p.s. but I finally found one!!!

I can't even afford the lifestyle I don't want...

mangiaFagioli's picture

(post #45984, reply #17 of 24)

I went poking around Amazon looking at her (Ursula Hegi's) titles but many have no descriptions of the books, so I didn't figure out which, so I'd love to hear when you find out. Thanks, it sounds interesting.

Rhea's picture

(post #45984, reply #18 of 24)

She is a wonderful writer and I think it is called" breaking the silence"....I read "stones from the river"...a must read!

 a wise woman once said you have to kiss alot of frogs before you find your prince.. my lips are sore...p.s. but I finally found one!!!

I can't even afford the lifestyle I don't want...

Jean's picture

(post #45984, reply #19 of 24)

Stones from the River was excellent.



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Rhea's picture

(post #45984, reply #20 of 24)

...couldn't put it down...would make a great movie -i think...just read The Kite Runner....also very good...


 


 a wise woman once said you have to kiss alot of frogs before you find your prince.. my lips are sore...p.s. but I finally found one!!!

I can't even afford the lifestyle I don't want...

Marcia's picture

(post #45984, reply #22 of 24)

It's been a long time since I read it, but it was a very powerful book.

Rhea's picture

(post #45984, reply #21 of 24)

...check on Ebay...it's called Tearing the Silence...:)


 a wise woman once said you have to kiss alot of frogs before you find your prince.. my lips are sore...p.s. but I finally found one!!!

I can't even afford the lifestyle I don't want...

mangiaFagioli's picture

(post #45984, reply #23 of 24)

Thanks. Ordered it used from Amazon (rather a seller through them) for $0.92. Could have gotten it for $0.50 from another seller in 'good' rather than 'like new' condition. Shipping is three times that.

Rhea's picture

(post #45984, reply #24 of 24)

You will enjoy it...:)

 a wise woman once said you have to kiss alot of frogs before you find your prince.. my lips are sore...p.s. but I finally found one!!!

I can't even afford the lifestyle I don't want...