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AnnL's picture

My dog, Riley, has had these odd "incidents" for the last 3 years or so.  I rarely see it, but will hear him sort of scrambling.  By the time I get to him, he seems fine, if subdued.  The few times I've been there when it's happened, it looks like he's dizzy--he'll have his legs splayed like he's trying to stay upright.  I've done the basic neurological test--place the top of a rear paw on the floor.  If it takes the dog a while to fix it, that's a sign of neurological problems.  But, he's always passed that and hasn't shown any other signs of neurological issues.  It doesn't happen often, but enough to be noticeable.  The small animal vet basically dismissed my concerns and said it old age.  


I finally had enough with them last month and switched to a new practice.  When she was reviewing the records of all my animals she saw the notes on Riley's incidents and asked me why a tick panel had never been done.  Uhm, gee, because no one ever suggested it.  So, we did that and she just called to tell me that he has Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever!!!


Makes me wish I had switched vets a long time ago!!  Grrr! 


Anyway, besides venting, I also wanted to alert those of you in the northeast that RMSF and Erlichia are becoming more and more prevalent up here.  Not just in dogs, but also in humans.  Be careful of ticks.


Ann
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(post #48337, reply #1 of 20)

Oh, dear, when it rains it pours.  What is his prognosis? Poor baby.



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(post #48337, reply #5 of 20)

I think the prognosis is good.  He had a Senior Workup done last year and all his organ functions are normal.  RMSP can damage the liver and kidneys.  So, since his symptoms are mild and sporadic, I think the anti-biotic will fix it.   I'll talk to the vet more tomorrow when I pick up the meds.  :-)

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Wolvie's picture

(post #48337, reply #6 of 20)

ah - they call that senior wellness profile here, and that's what Grady has now had - twice. I'm guessing it didn't cover that fever. I'll definitely call them today and find out.

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Wolvie's picture

(post #48337, reply #2 of 20)

uh oh. Grady is a bit wobbly sometimes, drags a claw once in awhile, but all his blood work comes back normal. The vet down here does a "wellness" profile, and it's pretty darned expensive, but - I have it done. Blood tests up the wazoo, etc.


Now you have me wondering if I should check for this too.  Probably I should check to see if that was tested for. I did mention the occasional wobble to the vet, and Grades is now on Glucosamine. It has helped a bit, but I have been wondering if it is what he needed, as my boy has shown no signs of arthiritic problems - just that occasional balance or drag issue. He passes the paw test you mentioned as well.


Drat.


I am, however, glad Riley is properly diagnosed, and now hopefully can be treated. :-)


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(post #48337, reply #3 of 20)

I've switched from Frontline (flea stuff) to Advantix.  Not only is it less expensive than Frontline but it also works on fleas, ticks (all sorts), mosquitoes AND you don't have to wait 2 days before & 4 days after application to wash the dog.


I figure if the mozzies & ticks don't attach to the dogs in the first place, you avoid the whole potential heartworm and other nasty diseases situation.


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(post #48337, reply #7 of 20)

I've switched from Frontline (flea stuff) to Advantix.


Make sure to keep Advantix away from cats.

plantlust's picture

(post #48337, reply #9 of 20)

Apparently, Advantix also comes in a cat only formula. The Advantix that I used on the dogs had literature that practically SCREAMED at me not to use it for cats.

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(post #48337, reply #10 of 20)

Advantix did NOT work for our little min-pin (he died last week, but not from fleas). 2 weeks after treatment he was crawling with fleas when we took him to the quack, errr...vet. Didn't work on the Weimaraners last year, either.


We have never had any luck with anything other than Advantage.


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(post #48337, reply #11 of 20)

It's those darn Texas fleas. They breed them meaner & more resistant down there.

Apparently, ours are just plain wimps<G>.

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(post #48337, reply #13 of 20)

LOL..too funny.


The first time I lived here, in San Antonio, we rented a condo and the 2nd day I was there, I saw the largest cockroach in the world (and remember, I lived in Mexico, where they can suck up small dogs).


I called the owner about it and all she said was, "Honey, everything's big in Texas". LOL


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(post #48337, reply #14 of 20)

Sorry, forgot to say that we had the same problems with Advantix in San Diego.

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(post #48337, reply #12 of 20)

I'm so sorry to hear about your dog. Big hugs from Southern California.

 


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unbaked's picture

(post #48337, reply #15 of 20)

Thank you, he was 12 and had a full life, but I still think that the vet was an idiot. He went in to have some teeth pulled and died 90 minutes after he got home. The vet never cashed the check, methinks he felt a bit guilty about that, too.

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Wolvie's picture

(post #48337, reply #17 of 20)

I use Frontline Plus. It has worked great for my dogs and cats, Ma, to WV, and now NC.


I am so sorry about the your little doggie - that does sound a bit more than suspicious.


I get Grady's teeth cleaned every other year now. He has one front tooth that seems to get a good bit of tartar and such now that he is getting to be an older dog.


At any rate, the meds used this time by the new vet here in NC really affected him badly, as in not himself at all, lethargic , etc, for a good 2 days after we got him home. Couldn't eat, didn't seem to be in pain, just totally confused. The vet had consulted with me on the meds, and since in all other things they had been pretty good, when she advised a change from what my previous vet had used, I okayed it. We had a pretty good discussion (let's say it was ... not heated, but crisp on my part) the next day after I saw how badly my dog was doing . I told her that he was never to be medicated/sedated with that particular set of meds again. It is marked on his folder.


The upshot is - I believe it almost killed him. I think it would have if he weren't a big dog. I know they base doseage on weight, but man - I thought I was going to lose him.


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(post #48337, reply #18 of 20)

Bucky was so old that they used Nitrous to sedate him supposedly. But he wouldn't eat, wouldn't go outside and was wheezing so badly when he got home that I think that he probably asphixiated on his own blood.


I think that the vet was extremely irresponsible to send a dog home who wouldn't even drink water.


We were about to contact the vet again to try to get them to come back to the office and take him again when he passed away.


I still think that it could have been prevented.


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Wolvie's picture

(post #48337, reply #19 of 20)

I agree with you.


I've never heard of a vet that would send home a pet that couldn't drink water. Something definitely off there.


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Fleas (post #48337, reply #20 of 20)

I have tried a few treatment for my Labs perennial flea problem. I share your sentiments and I find your info most helpful.

AnnL's picture

(post #48337, reply #4 of 20)

Yes, it wouldn't hurt (except in the wallet) to have the tick panel done.  Occasional lameness is one of the symptoms.  I hope Grady is OK.

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(post #48337, reply #8 of 20)

Occasional lameness is one of the symptoms.


I better get myself checked :)


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(post #48337, reply #16 of 20)

Boy, are you getting more than your share this month.  I hope Riley makes a fast and full recovery.


 


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