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MadMom's picture

he passed away this afternoon.



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Marcia's picture

(post #52613, reply #54 of 228)

I'd be very surprised if he died of natural causes. And just what are natural causes, anyway? I don't mean to be flip...it occurred to me that I really don't know.

jyang949's picture

(post #52613, reply #58 of 228)

I figure natural causes are diseases and conditions that are not brought on through human intervention. Big gray area, though.

Marcia's picture

(post #52613, reply #59 of 228)

Big gray area, though.

Yeah, I'd imagine so.

Gary's picture

(post #52613, reply #61 of 228)

In forensic terms, the manner of death is the set of circumstances that existed at the time the death was caused. There are only four manners of death: homicide, suicide, accidental, and natural death. Some states allow for an "undetermined". In other words, natural deaths are those due solely to disease without any injury or violence. This is pretty much a world-wide classification system.

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Marcia's picture

(post #52613, reply #75 of 228)

Okay, got it. Thanks as always, Gary.

Gretchen's picture

(post #52613, reply #80 of 228)

This morning on NPR the LA police said that the reason they became involved for an autopsy was because his physician in attendance would not sign the death certificate. If he had signed it, they would not be involved. Interesting.

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Gary's picture

(post #52613, reply #83 of 228)

I'm sure laws on this vary considerably, but here is how it works in Michigan. Every death must be reported to the medical examiner (coroner). They always ask for the circumstances. It is only after the ME is satisfied that the death is natural, that the attending doctor is asked if they will sign the death certificate. It is the ME's choice whether an investigation and autopsy is needed. A doctor cannot sign a death certificate until the ME has been notified and has signed off on the case.

The people who gave us golf and called it a game are the same people who gave us bag pipes and called it music and haggis and called it food.

Gretchen's picture

(post #52613, reply #90 of 228)

And maybe that is exactly what was meant and it just got shortened. I can't believe they wouldn't investigate this particular death very well.

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LuciaK's picture

(post #52613, reply #13 of 228)

And OJ was innocent, too.

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Ozark's picture

(post #52613, reply #25 of 228)

Not really an appropriate post, since he was acquitted of those charges.


Sure it was. He convicted himself when he paid millions to the first boy to not testify.


 


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Gretchen's picture

(post #52613, reply #14 of 228)

EXACTLY what our son said.  I am sorry for a person dying, but I don't think I'm gonna miss Micaheal much. Sorry, but the man went 'way beyond the pale.

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Jean's picture

(post #52613, reply #15 of 228)

He was beyond pathetic.


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(post #52613, reply #16 of 228)

AMEN

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Jillsifer's picture

(post #52613, reply #3 of 228)

The reports are still conflicting--he's dead, he's in a coma, he's alive but dying, etc., etc.

 


 


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jyang949's picture

(post #52613, reply #4 of 228)

The New York Times update 6:11pm EDT: Just repeats that he was hospitalized but nothing about current status.

ashleyd's picture

(post #52613, reply #5 of 228)

Whatever is happening there is no official news.


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Regality's picture

(post #52613, reply #42 of 228)

Last night we went to see Spamalot.  At one point one of the characters paused and said (possible minor paraphrase coming up),


 


"Ah, the King of Pop.  He touched a lot of people." 


 


*Long pause waiting for the scattered applause to end*


 


"Allegedly"


 


The audience roared and applauded wildly and even the cast cracked up after the sorta ad lib.


mineart's picture

(post #52613, reply #202 of 228)

Been in NOLA and blissfully not following the MJ hoopla.
Curiosity got to me though and i watched a little of the post-game clips from the memorial.
Coupla things bothered me.

Maybe I'm a cynic, but the clip of MJ's daughter crying and talking about her daddy... i got shivers; the crying seemed rather actor-y and forced. No doubt she and the kids are sad and going through a tough time, but it just looked coached.

Also, in general, as opposed to what I keep hearing commentators say, MJ did NOT invent the moonwalk ,nor the move in the Smooth Gangster video where the dancers lean out on invisible wire harnesses and appear to defy gravity.
The moonwalk appears in numerous obscure films of the 1930's and 40's, best done to my recollection by the awesome Cab Calloway. Youtube has a compilation of some of these films, but I believe I've seen other better examples in the past; maybe they can't get the rights to put them on youtube. And the wire-leaning thing was in the Mary Martin Peter Pan broadcast in the 1960's, among other productions.
I'll allow that MJ was a gifted musical visionary but he didn't "invent" all the stuff he's been credited with.