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McCain/Palin Rally in Ohio

AnnL's picture

This was posted over on the Tavern and I thought it worth posting here.  Very troubling...


http://bloggerinterrupted.com/2008/10/video-the-mccain-palin-mob-in-strongsville-ohio


Ann
"The elders were wise.  They knew that man's heart, away from nature, becomes hard; they knew that lack of respect for growing, living things, soon led to lack of respect for humans, too."  Chief Luther Standing Bear, Lakota Sioux

Ann
"The elders were wise.  They knew that man's heart, away from nature, becomes hard; they knew that lack of respect for growing, living things, soon led to lack of respect for humans, too."  Chief Luther Standing Bear, Lakota Sioux

Gretchen's picture

(post #51040, reply #1 of 130)

I couldn't get it to load, but I think it is just me. If it is about the various fringe stuff that is going on at these rallies, our paper has a scathing editorial about it all, and the nastiness that it is fomenting among the attendees.


Sheriff using "hussein".  Georgia rally where an Obama person (black) was told "Sit down, boy".


Gretchen
Gretchen
AnnL's picture

(post #51040, reply #3 of 130)

It's video "interview" of the crowd outside the rally--all pretty much willing to call Obama a terrorist, many saying that they've heard/known of Palin much longer than they've heard of Obama, one woman saying Palin has had many more interviews than Obama, etc.  One woman, when asked about him being a terrorist, she just said it's "in his bloodlines". 


Just very scarey.  The ignorance, combined with the hatred...very scarey.


Ann
"The elders were wise.  They knew that man's heart, away from nature, becomes hard; they knew that lack of respect for growing, living things, soon led to lack of respect for humans, too."  Chief Luther Standing Bear, Lakota Sioux

Ann
"The elders were wise.  They knew that man's heart, away from nature, becomes hard; they knew that lack of respect for growing, living things, soon led to lack of respect for humans, too."  Chief Luther Standing Bear, Lakota Sioux

Lee's picture

(post #51040, reply #26 of 130)

Scary?  I find it terrifying.  I well remember the assassinations of JFK, MLK and RFK.  The loathsome rhetoric coming out of the MCain camp is exactly the kind of fear and hate mongering that appeals to the lunatic fringe.  These are the sickos who decide to take care of things on their own with guns and bombs.  I hope to God the Secret Service is all over this.

roz's picture

(post #51040, reply #2 of 130)

Here you go Ann,

http://preview.tinyurl.com/3sbmjz

Scary, but this doesn't surprise me.

Be impeccable with your word. Don't take anything personally. Don't make assumptions. Do your best. Don Miguel Ruiz
AnnL's picture

(post #51040, reply #4 of 130)

Thanks!

Ann
"The elders were wise.  They knew that man's heart, away from nature, becomes hard; they knew that lack of respect for growing, living things, soon led to lack of respect for humans, too."  Chief Luther Standing Bear, Lakota Sioux

Ann
"The elders were wise.  They knew that man's heart, away from nature, becomes hard; they knew that lack of respect for growing, living things, soon led to lack of respect for humans, too."  Chief Luther Standing Bear, Lakota Sioux

roz's picture

(post #51040, reply #5 of 130)

Your welcome, thanks for posting that little tidbit. It is quite scary, and I understand at a Florida rally, Palin said some things that incited the audience as well. Whether those in the audience are plants or not, I don't know. It doesn't matter. Hate can lead to very bad things.

Be impeccable with your word. Don't take anything personally. Don't make assumptions. Do your best. Don Miguel Ruiz
soupereasy's picture

(post #51040, reply #6 of 130)

That is very scary! So much anger!

thecooktoo's picture

(post #51040, reply #7 of 130)

A lot of anger, and a lot of fear.  Justified or not, there are a lot of people (half of all voters, slightly more or less) that are scared to death of what Obama could do to this country.  Me among them.


Stop and ask yourself, how are you going to feel on the morning after election day when you wake up and find that the country is in the unfettered hands of Barack Obama, Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid.  That, my friends, is reason enough to be scared to death.  And I am.


 

kathymcmo's picture

(post #51040, reply #8 of 130)

Unbrideled joy, I would expect! I know you feel the opposite but I really think it will be OK, fear not :-)

TracyK's picture

(post #51040, reply #9 of 130)

And again, welcome to my life for the past eight years.

The idea of American exceptionalism doesn’t extend to Americans being exceptional. If you excelled academically and are able to casually use 690 SAT words then you might as well have the press shoot video of you giving the finger to the Statue of Liberty while the Dixie Chicks sing the University of the Taliban fight song.                --Aaron Sorkin

leonap's picture

(post #51040, reply #11 of 130)

Same here! What scares the bejeebers out of me is McCain being in charge of our foreign relations and our economy. How low can we go before we can't get back up? I have went from respecting the man to total disrespect in both his character and his judgment. If that weren't enough to petrify me, Palin...........she might be fine as governor of Alaska, but no way, no how is she fit to be next in line to being the most powerful person in the world. Also, as an aside, this woman claims to be a devout Christian. There is nothing Christian about her campaigning style.

AnnL's picture

(post #51040, reply #10 of 130)

I'll be ecstatic WHEN Obama wins!!  Glad that the country has a chance at getting back on track. 

Ann
"The elders were wise.  They knew that man's heart, away from nature, becomes hard; they knew that lack of respect for growing, living things, soon led to lack of respect for humans, too."  Chief Luther Standing Bear, Lakota Sioux

Ann
"The elders were wise.  They knew that man's heart, away from nature, becomes hard; they knew that lack of respect for growing, living things, soon led to lack of respect for humans, too."  Chief Luther Standing Bear, Lakota Sioux

samchang's picture

(post #51040, reply #12 of 130)

> . . . in the unfettered hands of Barack Obama, Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid.<

I think these past 8 years have skewed your outlook. I'm betting that your fear will not happen because unlike this administration, an Obama administration would find its hands 'fettered' by the rule of law.

Which is just as it should be.

thecooktoo's picture

(post #51040, reply #16 of 130)

The law is not what bothers me Sam, it's pure unbridled socialism.  I'm trying to figure where the money is going to come from to pay for all the programs he is promising.  There's not that much that can be taken from small businesses.  You notice that even the economy is tanking, his promises are not.


Jim

evelyn's picture

(post #51040, reply #18 of 130)

so, Jim, what is it about the purely capitalistic system of the last 8 years that helped it tank, in your opinion?

In life, learn the rules so that you know how to break them properly.
thecooktoo's picture

(post #51040, reply #20 of 130)

Unbridled greed on the part of mortgage and investment banks, spurred on by the governments insistance on low income or affordable mortgage lending.  I really place most of the blame at the feet of groups like Acorn and individuals like Barney Frank and Chris Dodd.


Deregulation is blamed, but there is a lot more to it than that.


Just my opinion.

MadMom's picture

(post #51040, reply #23 of 130)

Jim, seriously, do you approve of the way they are campaigning lately?  I know you're a reasonably intelligent fellow, and I understand that we disagree about some major policy issues, but seriously, this is beyond the pale.  Do you think that calling people a terrorist because of actions that were taken when they were 8 years old makes sense?  Do you think that calling an African-American "boy" is good politics?  I am really frightened, and I sincerely hope that the electorate is bright enough to be disgusted by the current tactics.  I know Obama has engaged in some too, but certainly not to the point that McCain/Palin have.


Edited to add that the troubled mortgages should be bought for pennies on the dollar to avoid rewarding the greedy ba$tards who thought they were a good deal.  Then, the government should negotiate them.  They certainly shouldn't end up enriching the people who have already made millions off people.  And, if you want to blame everyone except the government (for deregulation) and the mortgage giants who are now ready to suck us dry, that's your right.  I just happen to disagree, and find lots of blame to go around.




Not One More Day!
Not One More Dime! Not One More Life! Not One More Lie!

End the Occupation of Iraq -- Bring the Troops Home Now!

And Take Care of Them When They Get Here!


Edited 10/9/2008 4:04 pm ET by MadMom

thecooktoo's picture

(post #51040, reply #27 of 130)

Not going to argue...just expressed my fears.  You don't have to agree with them, and it is apparent that you don't.


BTW, he was not 8 years old when he sat on a board with him at the Woods Foundation...believe that was three years ago.  How old was he then?  Only goes to judgement...very poor judgement in my opinion.


Jim

TracyK's picture

(post #51040, reply #29 of 130)

Classic move from you... lob a turd then refuse to discuss it. And never respond to questions about your poster girl's family ties to a group that advocates violent overthrow of the government.


 


The idea of American exceptionalism doesn’t extend to Americans being exceptional. If you excelled academically and are able to casually use 690 SAT words then you might as well have the press shoot video of you giving the finger to the Statue of Liberty while the Dixie Chicks sing the University of the Taliban fight song.                --Aaron Sorkin

evelyn's picture

(post #51040, reply #31 of 130)

Tracy, I'm sure that Jim will respond to the association of Sarah Palin's husband being a member of that group...he probably just didn't see your post...

In life, learn the rules so that you know how to break them properly.
Carole4's picture

(post #51040, reply #34 of 130)

Having lived in Ohio for 60 years, 21 in SE Ohio, and the rest in Cuyahoga County where Strongsville is located, I tuned into Talk of the Nation yesterday and today. The first program was in Columbus, Ohio at COSI. Very interesting discussion on race and how it will be played out in Ohio and surrounding states in Appalachia. Today's program was in Athens, Ohio, SE Ohio. Go Bobcats!! :) I think it explains why the rally was held in Strongsville, rather than in Cleveland proper.

<http://www.wosu.org/totn/>

roz's picture

(post #51040, reply #37 of 130)

Thanks Carole for the link. I'll listen tomorrow...the day is done here.

Be impeccable with your word. Don't take anything personally. Don't make assumptions. Do your best. Don Miguel Ruiz
Carole4's picture

(post #51040, reply #38 of 130)

You're welcome. The discussion on race was one of the most intelligent and interesting I have heard so far in this election year. I loved my childhood, but it is scary down there!

thecooktoo just might recognize some of the ideas expressed by residents of this part of Ohio interesting as he is familiar with that part of Ohio.

Emmaline's picture

(post #51040, reply #56 of 130)

I currently live in St. Louis but my mother still lives in Alliance, OH, which is about 50 miles SE of Cleveland. I have been unable to convince her to vote for Obama but have convinced her not to vote for McCain. I consider this as close to a win as I'm going to get with my 73 yr. old mother. I also told her if she could convince 5 of her friends not to vote, I'd call more often. ;^)

I don't understand the appeal of McCain. I respect his service to this country but he was one hero among many and is not particularly respected even among his fellow POWs. Further, his claim that he has always been a leader on veteran's issues is a lie - he has voted time after time against funding for the VA in favor of privatizing services and The IAVA Action Fund recently gave him D. In contrast, Obama and Biden both received Bs.

McCain's life story is largely one big spin. He owes everything to the relentless exploitation of his family's connections or Cindy's money and connections. A maverick? There were 3 times - Lebanon, campaign finance reform and climate change - when he "reached across the aisle" and he brought no other Republicans with him because he has few friends and even fewer allies in the Senate. So, unless he's a shapeshifter who moonlights as an unbranded cow in his off time, I'm not buying it.

He also blew both "experience matters" and "Country First" by selecting Sarah Palin as a running mate. As a women, I'm embarrassed for her and as a speaker of English I shudder at the word salad. I've also spent some time on websites for Alaska newspapers, where they warn that if Sarah ends up coming back to her old job she will receive a "chilly reception and not because it's winter" because during the past 2 months she has burned bridges and exhausted all good will with both parties.

I'll step down now from my brightly painted soap box - because the truth needn't be ugly. :^)

I, would, however, like to recommend a comprehensive article in this month's Rolling Stone on McCain. It's long but informative.

Heather's picture

(post #51040, reply #57 of 130)

Good going with your Mom!

Emmaline's picture

(post #51040, reply #98 of 130)

Thanks.  It falls under the category of "You can't always get what you want... but if you try sometimes... you get what you need."

Heather's picture

(post #51040, reply #100 of 130)

I sing that a lot--it's so true.

shywoodlandcreature's picture

(post #51040, reply #69 of 130)

...unless he's a shapeshifter who moonlights as an unbranded cow in his off time, I'm not buying it.


LOL! I love it. Hope you plan on sticking around and posting more often.






“I wouldn't have seen it if I hadn't believed it.”
Marshall McLuhan
deejeh's picture

(post #51040, reply #72 of 130)

Don't know if you heard As It Happens this past Monday, but there was a delightful interview with one of the remaining members of the Maverick family of San Antonio, who gave the history of the name, and declared unequivocally that McCain is not a relative.  (She also called Carol Off "honey", which cracked me up.)


Here's the link.


deej

shywoodlandcreature's picture

(post #51040, reply #73 of 130)

I haven't heard the As It Happens interview - thanks for the link - but I did read the NYT article on the origin of the word. The world needs more real Mavericks, I think.





“I wouldn't have seen it if I hadn't believed it.”
Marshall McLuhan