NEW! Google Custom Search

Loading

Cheap great cafe in Paris

Florida2's picture

DH is going to Paris for three days tomorrow to scout it out for him to take me in autumn. He said he is going on the cheap-- do you know of a good but cheap cafe for lunch/breakfast where he can also people watch? He doesnt know whre he will stay yet but he DOES know he will go see the casino to play Texas Hold em while there and its on the Champs Elysee

Gretchen's picture

(post #50404, reply #1 of 55)

Tell him to go to the rue Buci and choose one along there. Mussels are a great choice. The Brasserie en l'Ile de St. Louis is just across the bridge in back of Notre Dame (RisottoGirl and I had the conversation about this) and is an excellent place--not terribly "cheap".  Our favorite place to go for mussels is in front of the Gare de Nord in one of the cafes there--they all have outdoor tables. But a lot of folks don't "do" that side of Paris.


He can really just walk along a street and see one, and take a look at the menu--they are all posted outside.


As for breakfast, he should just look for a place in the neighborhood of his hotel and go there. Where is he staying?  Be aware that if he stands at the bar of a cafe and drinks coffee and has a roll, it  will be much cheaper than if he sits down at a table to eat. Just his preference.  AND if he stops in the middle of the day for a quick coffee, etc., the same is true. It can be a significant amount!!


Our favorite "new" find was Auberge du Jarente on rue Jarente in the Marais. The menu there was VERY reasonable (20E) and the food delicious. Across the street from it is another restaurant that I can NEVER remember the name of. It is highly recommended, very reasonable, and has an outdoor seating area.


Again, where will you all be staying?  Tough duty to go scout the trip!!  The internet is a really good way to do it too.  Have you all been before.


Gretchen
Gretchen
Florida2's picture

(post #50404, reply #2 of 55)

He doesnt know where he is staying yet. He figures He will find a place to stay when he gets there since he is so not fussy about lodgings (unlike me). The only thing he does know, is , since he is a Poker fiend, he will be checking otu the casino on Champs Elysee.


He hates mussels, but eats almost anything else. Are these recommendations still good for a non mussel eater?


Thanks for the tips :)

Gretchen's picture

(post #50404, reply #3 of 55)

Well, hopefully he will find something. If he isn't leaving until tomorrow it wouldn't hurt to bid on Priceline. This is the busy season, and I do wonder what he plans to do to FIND a place to stay, and do it on the cheap. Doesn't sound like a plan to me--and I have actually done it that way. Wasted a LOT of time--and money. But it does seem like he has his priorities in mind.

Gretchen

And of course, there are a lot of other offerings than mussels. The menus are all posted.



Edited 7/1/2008 5:07 pm ET by Gretchen

Gretchen
roz's picture

(post #50404, reply #4 of 55)

Probably too late for www.couchsurfing.com Tell him to check it out. We've hosted a few 'surfers' and have had a good experience. But, we've said no to many more than we could have hosted!

Be impeccable with your word. Don't take anything personally. Don't make assumptions. Do your best. Don Miguel Ruiz
Gretchen's picture

(post #50404, reply #5 of 55)

The other thing he could check is something like lastminute.com . 

Gretchen

Gretchen
Florida2's picture

(post #50404, reply #6 of 55)

I'll pass it on to DH. He is flying standby for "free" since our DD works for an airline--her parents get free flights wherever the airline flies. Yay! The downside, is you never know what flight you will get and whether you will wait more than a day for a seat. Last minute, he could decide to go to London, Italy, Iceland, LA, or wherever there is a free seat if he cant get a free seat to Paris! So, he has to be light on his feet. BUt, I'm betting he will get the free flight to Paris. The flight isnt completely booked up yet, so there will probably be free seats.

Gretchen's picture

(post #50404, reply #8 of 55)

BTDT with our daughter, and he had better be ready to wait at this time of year. What airline?  I hope he has looked ahead for contingencies. You all know the drill. Actually, he will probably get first class pretty easily. But it IS summer. It still might be worth having a place for $40 for the first night even if he doesn't make it to Paris.

Gretchen

Gretchen
Gretchen's picture

(post #50404, reply #9 of 55)

By the way, if he hasn't flown out of CDG standby, tell him to be sure to have enough euros to pay the departure tax.


And if you all are going in September, be aware that mid-September to mid October, some of the hotels are filled for the fashion shows so you need to reserve ahead. It's our favorite time to go, but depending on your hotel choices, it can be full.


Gretchen
Gretchen
Risottogirl's picture

(post #50404, reply #10 of 55)

Although I am pretty flexible about accommodations, I dislike wasting time hunting them down, so I'd never just go to Paris (or any large city) without at least a rez for the first night. Just me.


Water is a great ingredient to cook with, it has such a neutral flavor - Bobby Flay

Water is a great ingredient to cook with, it has such a neutral flavor - Bobby Flay

Gretchen's picture

(post #50404, reply #11 of 55)

Me too, after the first time--with all 5 of us!!  Small cities,maybe, not Paris. And with the dollar in the toilet!! ICK!!

Gretchen


Edited 7/1/2008 8:59 pm ET by Gretchen

Gretchen
Risottogirl's picture

(post #50404, reply #12 of 55)

I'm not inclined to wing it at all, but my mom sure is. We got the last hotel room in Bayeux in late December. She was supposed to do the research and little did we know the whole town shuts down until spring.


And in Ireland, don't even get me started. She was supposed to be doing the planning after we left Dublin.  There was not a room to be found in Wicklow...grrr. Finally we got a room above a very loud pub and I called SO back home and had him set something up for the next stop. As soon as we decided where we were headed each day, SO would find us something using the internet. He found some great little inns and we didn't have to waste any time looking.


 


Water is a great ingredient to cook with, it has such a neutral flavor - Bobby Flay

Water is a great ingredient to cook with, it has such a neutral flavor - Bobby Flay

Gretchen's picture

(post #50404, reply #14 of 55)

The only time we did it was long before the ease of the internet--and we were travelling for 3 weeks with the kids as a graduation gift for our older son. We had guide books, pamphlets from the local towns (by MAIL), and went to the RR stations to get hotel reservations. 
And the one time we had a similar situation to yours above the pub was in Dachau, above the bar.  It was a sort of hilarious situation to all of us except DH, who was VERY uptight about it. No one died!!
Got to Paris, me driving, with NO idea where we were, or where we would stay. Drove around (EEEEEKKKK, MOM, look out!!) and finally stopped at a hotel somewhere in the Latin Quarter that had rooms for us--2 or3, can't remember. But the clerk said, in French (and spoke no English) "not for Saturday" (our final night). I kept begging him to find us even one room for Saturday.  Finally he was able to make me understand that there was NO HOTEL, as of Saturday--they would start a renovation!! 
The last night we did get a nice hotel near the Gare de l'Est for our train trip back to Luxembourg for our IcelandAir flight.  Worked out fine, and memories were made.

Gretchen

Gretchen
Florida2's picture

(post #50404, reply #15 of 55)

Well, DH made it on the flight to paris and is winging his way across the atlantic, "First Class!"== what a nice bonus.


While waiting for the flight, he decided to book a hotel through Priceline and got one at Le Scribe in the 9th arondissement next to the Opera. Its run by "Sofitel". Trip advisor shows good reviews except one very horrible review, so It should be just fine. I printed out all of everyone's advice and he has it with him in his back pack.

Gretchen's picture

(post #50404, reply #16 of 55)

Sounds like it should be just fine. And yes, it is easier on most/some flights to fly First than coach. They fill up coach and then--the rest is for "us'.

Gretchen

Gretchen
Florida2's picture

(post #50404, reply #17 of 55)

His jet was diverted so He his grounded now in New York for a repair for at least an hour. At least the seats, though fully recline nearly horizontally. One does not like to look up one's spouse's flight and see the word "Diverted" next to the flight number! He did text me tho.

Gretchen's picture

(post #50404, reply #18 of 55)

Flying standby is always a "whatever" and I hope he gets where he wants to be. When we left Paris the last time with our DD we stayed an extra day so as to get first class, rather than "nothing available". Seemed like a no brainer.


You have to be "loose", and we have bought seats finally, when nothing else was coming up.


Gretchen
Gretchen
Barbara48's picture

(post #50404, reply #19 of 55)

Le Scribe is quite nice, I hear,4 star so it should be fine. I like to know where i will lay my head and even eat dinner so I can concentrate on the sights,I also hate a bad meal in Paris so i do lots of research and we are mostly happy. I have a happy group of sheep that will go where ever. So far they have been happy,

Gretchen's picture

(post #50404, reply #20 of 55)

It's not hard to go on a Le Scribe budget.  Not a thing wrong with it if that is what you want to do.   Truth be told, I might even be able to afford that budget, but would not in a hundred years choose it.  Everyone is who they are/.

Gretchen

Gretchen
Florida2's picture

(post #50404, reply #21 of 55)

I suppose that its possible that the plane will be permanently diverted to JFK and He will have to wait until tomorrow to fly to paris. A trip to NYC could be pretty exciting too if he cannot get to Paris this weekend...It is still on the tarmac at JFK--luckily they landed at JFK to repair rather than crossing the ocean and THEN finding out there was sometihng wrong...


I think he got le scribe for 269$, much more than we usually pay for a hotel, but its on short notice and only for one night.


Edited 7/2/2008 9:20 pm ET by Florida2

moxie's picture

(post #50404, reply #22 of 55)

My parents just got back from a trip like that -- mostly in Italy for 3 weeks.  The had flight reservations to and from and and a hotel planned for the first night, and then brought  unlimited Eurorail passes and just got off wherever they pleased and found hotels where it suited them. Brought one backpack each to make it easy. I think they did have a few nights reserved in Florence in advance, too -- as they were meeting friends from Croatia there. They are 65 and 70 and the coolest people I know.  

"I have always relied on the kindness of strangers." - Blanche Dubois

Gretchen's picture

(post #50404, reply #23 of 55)

We did just fine that time, except in Rome. Should have spent a bit more money on the room, but it was still OK. I'm not a big fan of Rome anyway. Our room in Venice was wonderful--right on a canal.  But I do think big cities sometimes require some advance planning, and now with the ability to just punch it up on your computer it is a piece of cake.

Gretchen

Gretchen
courgette's picture

(post #50404, reply #24 of 55)

So are you saying you fly standby when you travel? Never occurred to me to do that! Might just have to try it sometime.


Mo

Gretchen's picture

(post #50404, reply #25 of 55)

Not any more. DD is no longer with Continental, but it was nice (usually!) while it lasted. Do you have someone who works for an airline?


It could get pretty creative finding a way to get somewhere at busy times, and hoping you could get back!!


Gretchen


Edited 7/4/2008 7:19 am ET by Gretchen

Gretchen
courgette's picture

(post #50404, reply #26 of 55)

No, but my wants are greater than my means so maybe I can be creative about acheiving them. probably going to want several trips to Paris tover the next two years while kate is there!


Mo

Gretchen's picture

(post #50404, reply #27 of 55)

Then you can't fly standby as I am describing (and FLcook). It is a perk of airline employees, and is extended to parents.  Your trips to Paris will be more costly than in the past too, according to all the prognosticators.

Gretchen

Gretchen
courgette's picture

(post #50404, reply #31 of 55)

I now understand you flew for free, but can you still fly standby for a reduced price, I wonder?


Mo

Gretchen's picture

(post #50404, reply #32 of 55)

NO. It is an airline employee perk. You flying as a non-rev passenger, and only space available. That is why you often hear people being called to the podium at flight time--they are getting the last seats on the flight.  I can remember several when we were in our seats and holding our breath until the door closed to make sure we weren't going to be taken off!!


And now if you buy a ticket and might want to fly standby for an earlier flight, they charge you sometimes.


Gretchen


Edited 7/4/2008 10:51 am ET by Gretchen

Gretchen
Florida2's picture

(post #50404, reply #28 of 55)

The program allows us 6 "bumps" a year which means we can bump to the head of the standby list. We plan to save them for when we have to get home in time for work the following day. DD is able to access the internal part of the airline computer, and so, we will always know if there are seats available, and also  how many standbys waiting

Gretchen's picture

(post #50404, reply #29 of 55)

Yes, I could get into the computer and plan the trip myself and put us on the list. The standbys were all listed, and their relative place on the seniority "totem pole". We would usually list for first class, and often got it.  If we were travelling with DD she could list us for "vacation" in which case you go to the top of the list. We stayed an extra day in Paris to get us first coming home. Not a bad deal!! And vacation seats are free (rather than $100 or so for a trip to Paris!!).


A lot of our trips were to Denver which used to be a Continental hub, so there was always a heavy traffic for standby. We had to buy tickets once or twice just to not put up with waiting and waiting. You can buy tickets on other airlines for not much, but it is complicated, and you are still flying standby!!


Gretchen
Gretchen
Florida2's picture

(post #50404, reply #30 of 55)

Wow! I didnt know about those details: I"ll ask DD about it if it still (or ever) applies to her airline flight rules. We are last on the totem pole since we are merely parents of employee, but that is still a great perk. I feel like we are getting some of our college fund money back--LOL