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angeldez's picture

I need some assistance desperately


I drink optifast x a day


I am allowed 1 meal 4 oz lean meat 4 oz vegetables (no corn, beans or peas although I can have green beans, no potatoes) and a large salad


I am so tired of the same thing everyday


are there any suggestions??


 

Jean's picture

(post #57137, reply #1 of 56)

Fish or shrimp?




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angeldez's picture

(post #57137, reply #4 of 56)

Can you think of a way I can eat it that would be different?

Gretchen's picture

(post #57137, reply #5 of 56)

Not Jean, but a diet like Optifast will not be a long term solution for you as Tracy has said.


I would suggest you enroll in Weight Watchers for a long term solution to better eating habits.


Stop any alcohol. Keep a food diary to see what you are eating.


Or The South Beach Diet can lead to a fairly quick start to losing weight--which rewards you and motivates your continued adherence to the "diet". You can google for South Beach and how it "works".


Having a similar problem, I will say that the weight did not get on in 7 days, and it won't get off in 7. It requires a change of life style.


Your doctor can also help you with a diet and counseling.


 I basically mistrust ANY diet program that requires you to buy their product. It is self serving.


Gretchen


Edited 2/21/2008 1:07 pm ET by Gretchen

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ouzo's picture

(post #57137, reply #6 of 56)

I second Gretchen's food diary suggestion - if after two months your weight loss is going slowly, it is the only way you will be able figure out why.  In addition, weigh your food and pay attention to fiber intake - 25 to 30 grams/day.  Good luck.

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Gretchen's picture

(post #57137, reply #7 of 56)

And additionally, portion control. A "portion" is the size of a deck of cards. Not what most of us think of!!

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ouzo's picture

(post #57137, reply #8 of 56)

Ah yes, portion control & weighing - the ultimate 'de-liar'.

"The best tricks are the simplest and the simplest tricks are the oldest" -Simon the owl

  No act of kindness, no matter how small, is ever wasted - Aesop, The Lion & the mouse

Spyda's picture

(post #57137, reply #56 of 56)

I would suggest a stir fry. Broccoli, peppers, onion, garlic, sprouts, bok choy or other cabbage...There are lots of veggies to use. Use any lean protien and spice it up with peppers, orange or lemon jest as well as spices like 5 spice or something. It is colorful, fast to cook and really satisfying and not at all like diet food. If you not allowed any oil, you could also steam this. Try some natural tamari (a sustitute for soy) in place of salt. White pepper is also fat free and very good.

TracyK's picture

(post #57137, reply #2 of 56)

Are you on this for a medical reason, or solely for weight loss?


If it's weight loss, I encourage you to consider other alternatives to a liquid diet program... most people do not lose weight permanently by following those programs (remember Oprah's 67 pounds of fat?), and they teach you absolutely nothing about how to live in the real world and eat normally to lose weight.


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angeldez's picture

(post #57137, reply #3 of 56)

I have to do counseling every week


But, it is for health as well as weight loss. I have fibromyalgia and it is worse every day because I have so much weight and my knees are arthritic and I need to get the weight off them. On top of it my sleep apnea is worse than it was even six months ago and is not getting better

TracyK's picture

(post #57137, reply #9 of 56)

Sucking down an overpriced beverage twice a day is not going to help you learn how to manage your food intake properly to permanently sustain a weight loss. When you stop drinking 2/3 of your meals, you will gain all the weight back, possibly even all of it plus some.


You would be doing yourself a HUGE favor by adopting a lifestyle change that you will be able to sustain in the long term.


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DeannaS's picture

(post #57137, reply #10 of 56)

Not that I disagree with what anyone else has been saying, but to actually answer your question - if you're looking for ways to make your healthy meal more interesting, I'd look to different herbs and spices. Check out different ethnic cookbooks for combinations. A favorite in our house is ginger/garlic/cumin or ginger/garlic/garam masala.

You can make your meals much more interesting without adding more fat/calories. (Of course, this would go for any meals, if you decide to heed the advice on here.)

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angeldez's picture

(post #57137, reply #11 of 56)

I have to say I believe I set off a fire storm which was not my intention. I could never have done tis on my own, my doctor sent me and I trust her explicitly. I understand what everyone is saying, but I am going to be taught the diet process to maintain the weight loss. I also intend to do weight watcher or something like it to continue the process. I appreciate your response as I am so tired of plain chicken and pork chops. I realize this is somewhat if a "quick fix" and I need to change the lifestyle and the way I eat. I just had to do something and do it now.

Jean's picture

(post #57137, reply #12 of 56)

Good for you. You sound determined and that's what it takes.  If you have a microwave you might want to experiment with using it to cook fish. You can really control the fat calories if you use the nuker.  Here's a site with a couple of recipes that you may want to try. You can google for others.


edit to add.  Check out the South Beach Diet cook books for some great recipes and ideas.  Good luck.


http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1216/is_nSPEISS_v198/ai_20036729




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Edited 2/21/2008 4:04 pm ET by Jean

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angeldez's picture

(post #57137, reply #14 of 56)

THANKS !!


I am just so frustrated. I frankly do not know if I will be able to do the whole 16 weeks or not. I am a RN and I just do not feel comfortable w/ the amount of added potassium I am now on. My system normally leaches it for some reason so I have been on 90 meq for quite some time which is high. Because the Optifast also leaches potassium, I am now on 200 meq. This is not a good thing as far as I am concerned. Fish would definitely be a treat.

gardencat's picture

(post #57137, reply #19 of 56)

It is a hard thing to do and I applaud your work! I'm also an RN and a few years ago I changed my life and lost over 100. It had to be a life change.

I know lots of people who have done the Optifast way and the good thing it does is to break the usual eating pattern--I think that is the biggest benefit of it. Keep going until the counselling and depatterning has worked for you! Then gradually moving to WW for a life style is a great idea.

I think you are doing a great thing for yourself and that is very important. It can be very hard for those of us who love food, but this way I get to live longer and enjoy more! You will too.

As for the question you asked about making the food taste better, I do agree with varying the spicing. I increased the freshness and variety of my spices and the types and volume of herbs that I use regularly.

My body also flushes potassium very (too) effectively. Is this a nurse thing? ;-)

Keep going--it is worth it and you can do it!

Adele's picture

(post #57137, reply #20 of 56)

Keep on trucking.  Just like quitting drinking or smoking, you are going through the hard part of changing your habits.  Try with all your might to get through this part, it does get easier though it may not seem so when all you want is a dripping hamburger.  :)  BUT WAIT!  There's MORE!  Get through this part and soon enough, you will be able to have that hamburger.

But, but, it's SUPPOSED to taste like that!

But, but, it's SUPPOSED to taste like that!

soupereasy's picture

(post #57137, reply #21 of 56)

Ah, but once we change the habits, the hamburger may be less appealing.


As for the potassium, hypokalemia been there done that, that potassium burns like a bugger, especially with an IV in each arm. Take the supplement!

Jean's picture

(post #57137, reply #22 of 56)

I take mine regularly now.  The hypokalemia was a blessing in disguise for me. It triggered some really annoying cardiac arrhythmias/chest pain/arteriogram/5 stents in various arteries including L&R iliacs which happily eased the awful pain I had in my hips. Unfortunately I'm highly allergic to Plavix and Ticlid so I'm only on aspirin therapy.  We hope it's enough. Now all I have to do is figure a way to regain strength in my atrophied leg muscles.



Youth is fleeting. Immaturity, however, can last forever.
http://www.thebreastcancersite.com/

A  clear conscience is usually the sign of a bad memory.
http://www.thebreastcancersite.com/
help to provide free mammograms for women in need
soupereasy's picture

(post #57137, reply #24 of 56)

Mine was a bit of a shock to me. Not something I want to repeat! I can only wish you well!

Jean's picture

(post #57137, reply #25 of 56)

I have some lab work scheduled for Monday. We'll see if I'm staying in the normal range. Taking hctz doesn't help matters. :)



Youth is fleeting. Immaturity, however, can last forever.
http://www.thebreastcancersite.com/

A  clear conscience is usually the sign of a bad memory.
http://www.thebreastcancersite.com/
help to provide free mammograms for women in need
Marcia's picture

(post #57137, reply #26 of 56)

Why,Jean, I had no idea you had that big word of a condition that is new to me.

I hope the tests results come out fine, and that your aspirin works well enough to keep your potassium levels in a good range.

Has anyone suggested physical therapy for your atrophied legs? How you've kept up with bowling and such is beyond me, but I'm sure it's helped to keep active. Just think how your bowling team would improve if your legs get strong again. :)

It's a true blessing that your pain is much better. May that happy state of affairs continue indefinitely!

Jean's picture

(post #57137, reply #27 of 56)

Thanks for your kind thoughts. The aspirin is to help keep the blood from clotting too easily. The other meds that I'm allergic to help with the viscosity, make the blood more slippery to help prevent cells from sticking to the rough spots in the arteries.  So far so good without it.  I'm pretty good once I'm on my feet, but I don't handle stairs well at all, can't raise up on my tiptoes, etc.


They've recently opened a new fitness center in conjunction with the hospital.  I'm hoping that if my doc thinks I'm a candidate for rehab that insurance will cover some of the cost because it's fairly expensive to use the facilities and the personal trainer is over and above that cost.  We'll see. It's that or convince my DH that I am indeed an old lady. LOL.  With his blinders, he still sees me as 18.  In the meantime when it comes time to bowl, I rise to the occasion because it's fun.  Somehow i don't envision lifting weights as being much fun.  Maybe I can convince Himself to come along with me, eh?




Youth is fleeting. Immaturity, however, can last forever.
http://www.thebreastcancersite.com/

A  clear conscience is usually the sign of a bad memory.
http://www.thebreastcancersite.com/
help to provide free mammograms for women in need
MadMom's picture

(post #57137, reply #28 of 56)

I absolutely love physical therapy.  I go twice a week, and I do think it's helping.  Unfortunately, this current stint ends the first week in March.  The doctor said she could approve another 4 weeks (which hopefully means the insurance will cover it) if I still need it.  She said that a break like I had might take two years to recover from, and I'm just over a year now.  Don't think I will ever be hitting the zip lines, the white water rapids, etc., but would like to be able to paint walls and string wire and do things like that which I've always done.  I refuse to think of myself as old.  I know I'm still 29 - well, maybe 39 - but there is some fat old lady who gets between myself and the mirror all the time.



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Gretchen's picture

(post #57137, reply #29 of 56)

Jean, if you can get your doctor to approve some PT you can learn the exercises you need and do them at home. Most do not require any equipment or just rubber bands, etc.


I can send you exercises for strengthening quads. Do you have a senior center or a Y that has exercise classes?


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whatscooking's picture

(post #57137, reply #30 of 56)

I've lost 30 pounds since August from 165 to 135, which I attribute to a good diet and frequent exercise :)  I just wanted to say that you can make great healthy smoothies at home without buying any pre-made shakes.  You do have to make the initial investment to stock your pantry.  I kick started my diet by making a morning protein shake with 3 ice cubes, frozen strawberries, half a frozen banana, a handful of blueberries, some plain non-fat yogurt and some non-fat milk.  I also add some fiber, a half scoop of whey powder (vanilla) and some flax meal.  This makes about a 12 oz glass that is super delicious and has fiber to keep you full.  Just this change alone started the pounds dropping.  I wake up looking forward to this shake because it really is good.  Plus I do my best not to go out for lunch (lunches out, even salads will kill your diet)  and have a healthy home-cooked meal with a focus on greens and protein.  Also take a look at MSNBC - Today Show web site.  Joy Bauer, the nutritionist, has a food guide and diet recommendations along with smart, nutritional snacks to get you on the right track. Her advice and enthusiasm are helpful to me.  Oh and one more thing, You on a Diet, has great recipes for smoothies and other foods.  This is an inspirational and encouraging book.  Be positive, you can do it.  I am very mildly affected by a type of muscular dystrophy called myasthenia gravis, which makes me weaker than the average person.  If I can do it, anyone can.

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madnoodle's picture

(post #57137, reply #33 of 56)

Your breakfast smoothie sounds good to me.  What do you mean by "add some fibre"?  What's whey powder?  Is that like protein powder?  Where can I buy it?


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ouzo's picture

(post #57137, reply #34 of 56)

Not whatscooking, but you can find whey in the supplement section of most grocery stores, or at health food stores.  It's right next to the soy protein powder - which is what I add to my daily smoothies.  A serving of soy powder has 1 gr fiber.  I don't add extra fiber- I reason that the banana and strawberries have enough fiber on their own.

"The best tricks are the simplest and the simplest tricks are the oldest" -Simon the owl

  No act of kindness, no matter how small, is ever wasted - Aesop, The Lion & the mouse

whatscooking's picture

(post #57137, reply #47 of 56)

I used to make them without the added fiber, but Dr. Oz (author of You, on a Diet and frequent Oprah guest) recommended adding it so I started to add it.  I think, even with all the veggies and fruits I eat, I still don't get the recommended amount.  It reminds me of that commercial about fiber where the woman is shown sitting at her desk and running on the treadmill eating a stalk of broccoli or a carrot, desperately trying to get in the daily recommended amount.  That would be me, lol.

Keep a green tree in your heart and
perhaps a singing bird will come
- Chinese proverb

Chicago-style deep-dish:  "Pizza for people who just aren't fat enough"
Anthony Bourdain
http://theoutdatedkitchen.blogspot.com/

msm-s's picture

(post #57137, reply #36 of 56)

adding to what ouzo said, various supplemental powders are easy to find, but read them carefully. they are usually grouped together and i once bought a weight-gain product accidentally instead of the low fat protein/energy one i meant to get!

ouzo's picture

(post #57137, reply #42 of 56)

..supplemental powders are easy to find, but read them carefully..  '


I second that!  I just bought & opened 32 oz of chocolate flavored soy powder rather than the rather bland vanilla flavor.  Blah.  When did this 'flavor' get added?  I am stuck with this for the next month or so.


"The best tricks are the simplest and the simplest tricks are the oldest" -Simon the owl

  No act of kindness, no matter how small, is ever wasted - Aesop, The Lion & the mouse