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The D Word (post #57129)

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Yeah, but you'll notice there hasn't been a posting in it since June :)

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RheaS's picture

(post #57129, reply #1 of 119)

This thread only gets busy after New Year's Day.

rodezzy's picture

(post #57129, reply #5 of 119)

Oh............thanks, I'll be careful.

Rodezzy, Fiber Artist

Rodezzy, Fiber Artist

chiffonade's picture

(post #57129, reply #2 of 119)

I'm fighting this battle right now and it's so frustrating.  I exercise 3-4 times a week and I'm careful about food.  (Even if I bake goodies or cook high-fat foods, it doesn't necessarily mean I consume them to any excessive degree.)   I can't seem to lose any weight.  I went to a nutritionist who says I'm carrying a lot of muscle.  I'm not happy at this size.  It's harder and harder to wake up at 4:20 a.m. to go to the gym if that $*#+ scale isn't moving...


And if one more "professional" tells me "well...for your age..."  1106.gif image by chiffonade


"Sandra Lee is the Culinary Anti-Christ and I am the Anti-Sandra Lee.  The precious moments you may take to measure a level cup of flour are NOT wasted time!"


Chiffonade

*You're a REAL person, eat REAL food."

Chiffonade

rodezzy's picture

(post #57129, reply #3 of 119)

Try yoga instead of the traditional muscle gaining exercises that are practiced.


You may even gain more serenity in your life.  I know vegetarians that are overweight. 


I fought my weight from a teenager.  I've always been big boned.  Really, at 130 pounds you can see my hip bones protruding through my clothes.  So, at the tender age of forty something I said "ENOUGH ALREADY" I'm not sweating any more. 


Now at fifty something, I'm happily over weight and just eating healthy most of the time.  It's funny how "healthy foods" can cause weight gain. 


But it's all about what makes you happy.  You seem to have a lot of aggression.  Try yoga......it may calm you down.  Let it go....................


Rodezzy, Fiber Artist

Rodezzy, Fiber Artist

chiffonade's picture

(post #57129, reply #6 of 119)

You seem to have a lot of aggression.


Ooooooh - that one landed right between the eyes!  sm10_eyes.gif image by chiffonade


"Sandra Lee is the Culinary Anti-Christ and I am the Anti-Sandra Lee.  The precious moments you may take to measure a level cup of flour are NOT wasted time!"


Chiffonade

*You're a REAL person, eat REAL food."

Chiffonade

rodezzy's picture

(post #57129, reply #7 of 119)

Sorry.......only an observation from reading your post.  (smile?)

Rodezzy, Fiber Artist

Rodezzy, Fiber Artist

chiffonade's picture

(post #57129, reply #8 of 119)

No worries...I'm sure there are many in agreement with you.  I've never been a shrinking violet.  rollingrofl.gif image by chiffonade


Besides...I didn't say you were wrong!


"Sandra Lee is the Culinary Anti-Christ and I am the Anti-Sandra Lee.  The precious moments you may take to measure a level cup of flour are NOT wasted time!"


Chiffonade

*You're a REAL person, eat REAL food."

Chiffonade

rodezzy's picture

(post #57129, reply #10 of 119)

Whew, don't want to offend anyone...I love these forums for meeting people who talk about the things I want to talk about.  Crafts on the thread gatherings and this "Cooks Talk" will be informative, as I like to cook sometimes.  Not a lot.  But I used to be a cookaholic in my prime.  Took three years of Home Economics in high school in a small town along with college courses.  3 yrs. of both cooking and sewing. 


I was going to be the best wife, mother, homemaker in the world......Oh well, I was good....but it wasn't appreciated.  Oh well, I'll stop peeling onions right now.  Had a good life even though I spent most of it trying to find my dreams.  Raised a son, and have two grand daughters (plus add on grands...smile).  I'm happy with me today and feel good about being able to survive in America without being homeless and suffering.  Ahh the good life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Rodezzy, Fiber Artist

Rodezzy, Fiber Artist

chiffonade's picture

(post #57129, reply #11 of 119)

No worries!  thyogasmiley.gif image by chiffonade


"Sandra Lee is the Culinary Anti-Christ and I am the Anti-Sandra Lee.  The precious moments you may take to measure a level cup of flour are NOT wasted time!"


Chiffonade

*You're a REAL person, eat REAL food."

Chiffonade

plantlust's picture

(post #57129, reply #9 of 119)

Anyone checked into potential thyroid problems.  Seems to nail more people that are not on the coast (access to iodine rich seafood).


A double recipe of Mocha Panna Cotta, a quadruple recipe of Fleur De Sel Caramel.  I think I'm ready for Mother's B-day party, tho she may just look at the bowl & ask, "Where is everyone elses share?"

Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with parsley sauce, goat cheese garlic mashed potatoes, Galena Cellars Niagra grape wine & Pie Boss's apple crumble topped with Ruth & Phil's sour cream/cinnamon ice cream.

chiffonade's picture

(post #57129, reply #29 of 119)

...Anyone checked into potential thyroid problems.


Me.  I had a whole workup recently as part of my physical.  #&@^@ thyroid is normal.  Can't even write it off to that.


...Bifocals.


I had eagle-eye vision my whole life...until 40.  Then I decided either grow longer arms or get glasses.  I got glasses and hated the way they looked.  Because I didn't have glasses my whole life, I kept banging the side of them into things (ouch) and I realized I couldn't get into tight spots wearing glasses.  I decided it was time for contacts.


What's that?  My periferal vision?  Hello old friend!   The eye doc gave me something called bifocal lenses and after 8 hours of wearing them, I was nauseous.  We tried another tack.  He recommended "mono" vision.  This is where you wear one contact for your distance and one for your reading power.  The two powers meet somewhere in the middle of your head and it's all good.  Seeing as I didn't need any adjustments for distance vision, I only wear one - for my reading power. 


I thought the doctor would wet himself the first time I said, "So I'm actually wearing len?"  Now at the eye doc, I'm known as The Len Wearer.


"Sandra Lee is the Culinary Anti-Christ and I am the Anti-Sandra Lee.  The precious moments you may take to measure a level cup of flour are NOT wasted time!"


Chiffonade

*You're a REAL person, eat REAL food."

Chiffonade

bonnieruth's picture

(post #57129, reply #23 of 119)

Now at fifty something, I'm happily over weight and just eating healthy most of the time. 


The New York Times had an article today titled Chubby Gets a Second Look that said "overweight" people have the lowest mortality rate of any weight group.  (Sounds like they're not really "overweight" to me.  What did nature intend?)  Peter J. Brown, an anthropologist at Emory University, was quoted as saying that being thin really isn't about health, but about social class and control.   Nowadays being overweight is associated with the lower classes.  But the diet industry has cleverly disguised  the issue as being about health.  The truly obese, as opposed to "overweight," do have more deaths from heart disease, but thin people have more deaths from everything but cancer and heart disease, and even some kinds of cancer.


Unfortunately, this probably does not make most of us any more willing to gain weight.  The "social class and control" issues are too strong.  But let's don't pretend it is about health. 

Jean's picture

(post #57129, reply #24 of 119)

Marilyn Monroe was chubby by today's standards.



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soupereasy's picture

(post #57129, reply #25 of 119)

We were watching Seven Year Itch last night and I was thinking the same thing. Not a rib or hip bone in sight. Not even a prominent clavicle. She looked pretty good.

assibams's picture

(post #57129, reply #26 of 119)

Warning! Rant ahead!


the lowest mortality rate of any weight group


One of my major pet peeves. The mortality rate is 100% for any group. Period. The life expectancy may differ, but the mortality rate is fixed.



Be yourself. Everyone else is already taken.

"A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort."
Herm Albright

msm-s's picture

(post #57129, reply #27 of 119)

LOL! how true!
If it's about whatever makes you happy, then i'm happy keeping slim-ish. after 40? you whippersnappers you! what really sucks is that after 50 even if you are fit and have good muscle tone, your skin just doesn't stay where it should. i laid a mirror on the bed to clean it a few years ago and what i saw in it while leaning over nearly gave me a heart attack.

speaking of rants on words, "diet" needs to quit being a dirty word. People should quit saying they are going ON a diet. your diet is what you eat, whatever that is, and if you want to change your weight, you change your eating and excercise habits. i know in this sense Diet is just a convenient word for doing this, but IMO it leads to obsessing about food and the feeling that we are denying ourselves of something, which is a very negative way to approach getting healthy. and i DO say getting healthy, because i'm not sure what the report on Chubby = Longer Life is based on exactly. Possibly apprropriate weight people are more often hit by cars as they go on their morning run?


Edited 11/12/2007 2:27 am ET by msm-s

Jean's picture

(post #57129, reply #30 of 119)

nearly gave me a heart attack


Then you'll identify with this.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOrDazQrENo




Birthdays are good for you. The more you have, the longer you live.
http://www.thebreastcancersite.com/

A  clear conscience is usually the sign of a bad memory.
http://www.thebreastcancersite.com/
help to provide free mammograms for women in need
msm-s's picture

(post #57129, reply #33 of 119)

at least the monkey could shave off the facial hair if she wants-

soupereasy's picture

(post #57129, reply #37 of 119)

but what to do with all that extra skin? I think someone wrote a book about not fitting their skin anymore.:(

rodezzy's picture

(post #57129, reply #35 of 119)

That was Oh so cute and funny. 


Fortunately or unfortunately - depends on how you view life - we are going to get old if we keep on living.


That means we are going to get wrinkled, shrink, get grey and/or bald, physically weaker, and whatever else comes along with living long.  You can only try to stay as healthy as you can, keep as many teeth as you can, and get on with it. 


Stop watching it and stressing out, get on with life.  I am.  Anybody not happy with me and the way I look can KMA. 


Rodezzy, Fiber Artist

Rodezzy, Fiber Artist

CookiM0nster's picture

(post #57129, reply #28 of 119)

Actually, while everyone is mortal, the mortality rate isn't always 100% - it refers to the *rate* at which people are expected to die, not whether or not they will. And, according to Merriam-Webster, the addition of the word rate is redundant - something I didn't know until checking just now.

bonnieruth's picture

(post #57129, reply #31 of 119)

Actually, while everyone is mortal, the mortality rate isn't always 100% - it refers to the *rate* at which people are expected to die, not whether or not they will. And, according to Merriam-Webster, the addition of the word rate is redundant - something I didn't know until checking just now.


I was going to say this, but you beat me to it.  I am amazed, however, that the addition of the word 'rate' is redundant.  Seems like without the 'rate,' it would indeed refer to mortality itself, i.e., the 100 percent.  I will have to look this up myself for the explanation. 

assibams's picture

(post #57129, reply #32 of 119)

And to Cooki, too.


 I understand what you are saying, but it is also my understanding that the mortality has to be linked to a condition (disease et al), not life per se.



Be yourself. Everyone else is already taken.

"A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort."
Herm Albright

bonnieruth's picture

(post #57129, reply #36 of 119)

I understand what you are saying, but it is also my understanding that the mortality has to be linked to a condition (disease et al), not life per se.


I did look it up myself, and Cooki is right on all counts.  To quote Webster:


3. a) the proportion of deaths to the population of a region, nation, etc.; death rate, b) the proportion of deaths from a particular disease.


So the etc. could be a weight group.  And if mortality means "death rate," then 'rate' is indeed redundant.


Here is a definition I didn't know,however:  4.  human beings collectively, mankind.  Huh?  I've never seen mankind called 'mortality."  Then it says that "death" as a defnition is obsolete. 


 


 

rodezzy's picture

(post #57129, reply #34 of 119)

Sounds good to me.  I've been "chubby" according to US standards all of my life.  Even with diet and exercise.

Rodezzy, Fiber Artist

Rodezzy, Fiber Artist

KitchenWitch's picture

(post #57129, reply #12 of 119)

if you are carrying a lot of muscle, and not a lot of bodyfat, judge yourself on how things fit, not the scale numbers.
Now, if your bodyfat percentage is higher than you'd like, then you gotta burn more.

What sort of exercise are you doing?


I've been working out hard 3x a week for almost a year.
my numbers and clothing fit are good, but I can't seem to lose that layer of subcutatous fat around my middle without seriously upping my cardio.  and then there's the fact that alcohol impairs the body's ability to metabolize fat. I'm not about to give up my nightly glass of wine, so I guess I'll keep the extra cush.


and yes, it sucks after forty. I was at the eye doctor today and this whippersnapper (I swear to God, my combat boots are older than him) tried to put me into bifocals. I'll juggle reading and regular glasses, thank you very much, JUNIOR.


~RuthAnn
foom!


~RuthAnn

SallyBR1's picture

(post #57129, reply #13 of 119)

IF I had spilled my capuccino over the keyboard from laughing too hard at your post, I would HAVE to get mad at you, you know....

this was priceless!

 


 


It is not gremolita, it is GREMOLATA!!!!

(October 2007)

madnoodle's picture

(post #57129, reply #14 of 119)

Ugghhhhhh.   I'm not 40 til next year, and I'm avoiding my eye doctor b/c I just know she'll suggest bifocals.  I've been extremely near-sighted since I was a kid, but this not being able to focus up close is driving me crazy.  What's the name of that river in Egypt again?  Oh yeah, de-nial.

Saskatchewan:  our mountain-removal project is nearly complete.

What if there were no hypothetical questions?

 

Gretchen's picture

(post #57129, reply #15 of 119)

You can get no-line bifocals. And actually being nearsighted usually means taking your glasses off to read as your eyes change shape.

Gretchen

Gretchen
madnoodle's picture

(post #57129, reply #16 of 119)

My problem isn't so much with up close, it's with refocusing on different distances.  So, for example, when I look up from my knitting to see the tv, I have trouble, particularly with white text on a dark background (like subtitles, or little info bits under pictures on the news).  Maybe it's not a bifocal issue after all.

Saskatchewan:  our mountain-removal project is nearly complete.

What if there were no hypothetical questions?