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Corked Wine

Carrotsnapper's picture

Let me begin by telling you that I rarely drink, just the odd glass of wine and I'm not sure I know how to tell a great wine because we drink so little.   Tonight DH and I uncorked a bottle of Villa Antinori 2002 Toscana.  I adore it.  I want to cook the most delicious food known to mankind.  It reminds me slightly of a perfect biga or mushrooms, coddled eggs and evoo, fresh chunks of parmesan and deliciously charred meat.  I adore this wine but DH thinks it may be corked.  I would agree it has a very oak-y flavor but it smells great.  I once read that a corked wine will have a scent you won't forget...this smells a little bit "hot" but slightly like yeast and mashed strawberries.  It also hints of something like really good soy sauce.


So, am I in love (actually want to drink the entire bottle) \do you think this wine is possibly corked or is it okay?  How would I know if it was corked without ever having had a corked wine?


MTIA


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MarineEngineer's picture

(post #33645, reply #1 of 5)

just googled "corked wine" and found this:

TCA does not pose a health risk (at least in the levels found in wines). It just imparts the aromas and flavors that are objectionable when found in sufficient quantity. Many wines have levels of TCA that are below the threshold of perception.

so if it tastes good to you, drink away.

Cheers

Marine Engineer

Gretchen's picture

(post #33645, reply #2 of 5)

It might taste OK to one person but taste really off to another. We have gotten some, and it is unmistakable in our cases, not because we're so discriminating, but because it was muddy awful!!

Gretchen

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BonnieinHolland's picture

(post #33645, reply #3 of 5)

You didn't say what your husband smelled or tasted that made him think the wine was corked.  In any case, your description didn't sound like the wine was corked -- it would have smelled of old musty socks or wet yucky cardboard, and tasted off as well.  However, people have differing abilities to detect corked wine.  Some folks can detect it at very low levels while others can't.  And a corked wine can have differing levels of being corked.  So the wine could have indeed been corked and your husband was just more sensitive to noticing it.  Impossible to know.  I have had more corked bottles of wine from Italy than from any other country.  And within Italy the most bottles of corked wine I've had have been from Tuscany.    It also occurs to me, from the soy sauce note that you mention, that the wine could have been heat damaged and not corked.  Anyway, if it tastes good to you, no problem with drinking it.  cheers, Bonnie

ashleyd's picture

(post #33645, reply #4 of 5)

"Corked" tends to be a catch-all term for wine that is flawed, sometimes from TCH, sometimes from oxidation, sometimes from poor processing and sometimes it's simply bad wine. There are lots of degrees of "offness" ranging from the imperceptible to all but the trained nose to stuff that makes you want to gag. And the degree of sensitivity can vary, I've been at wine tastings where a wine was definitely but mildly corked, some tasters didn't notice, some noticed but didn't care and the others wouldn't drink it. Your mention of mushrooms gives a hint that all might not be well as that is one of the smells associated with "corkiness" (although it is also associated with perfectly good wine). If you like it and your husband is not sure then drink it (or cook with it) for the two of you, if you're going to share it get a 3rd opinion.



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Carrotsnapper's picture

(post #33645, reply #5 of 5)

It was the really oak-y flavor that made DH question the wine.  We couldn't decide if, after the first glass, we liked the wine.  It wasn't inedible but the really earthy flavors it started with disappeared quickly and then left the back/side of our tongues feeling parched.  We didn't finish the bottle but to start it tasted great.  I am realy excited to learn more about wine.  It's kinda hard with the blind leading the blind, though.  DH and I have been reading alot but all the books can't teach taste and then I'm worried I might be learning to like bad wine. 


I may have mentioned this on another post but we met a girl who claimed to be from Spain and whenever she drank wine she stirred several teaspoons of sugar into her wine.  She said that's what wine from Spain tastes like.  ICK!  Nonetheless, I've had many a dry wine from Spain and have yet to taste sugary sweet wine.  (Unless of course you count dessert wines)


Anyways, much in the way of thanks for the replies.  I really appreciate them.


Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails.
Explore. Dream. Discover.

Mark Twain

Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails.
Explore. Dream. Discover.

Mark Twain