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Twinkie filling troubles (post #63483)

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Okay, so the Twinkie pan was half-price at Williams-Sonoma, it seemed like a good idea at the time.  I bought one thinking it would be hilarious to present my friends with handmade "Twinkies" that taste good.  We have an ongoing competition as to who can come up with the most debased trailer-trash recipe.  I was ahead with the Velveeta Fudge until he came up with the Kitty LitterBox Cake recipe (you don't want to know).


The little cakes came out fine using the recipe from the WS website, a quite decent vanilla sponge cake, but I'm having trouble with the filling.  It appears to be marshmallow cream, just like the stuff you buy in a jar.  Yeah, ick, but I'm trying for authenticity here.  I've never used a recipe like this one before:


2 egg whites; 2/3C. sugar; 1/4C. light corn syrup; pinch salt; 1/2 tsp. vanilla


Combine 1st four ingred. in large mixer bowl; place over, not touching, hot water and whisk by hand until sugar dissolves and mixture is hot, 2 to 3 minutes.  Set the bowl on the mixer and beat 3 min. at medium speed with the whisk attachment, add vanilla, beat 2-3 min. more until it forms medium-firm peaks and the outside of the bowl is cool.


My problem is that  the fluff is too stiff to pipe (inject) into the Twinkies.  I have a special long decorating tip for this purpose but it was too narrow.  Tried a 1/4" conical tip which flowed fine but couldn't insert it far enough into the cakelet to inject the filling without damaging it.


I wonder if someone out there has experience handling this type of marshmallow-y confection?  Did I whip it too stiffly, or does it firm up upon cooling and I wasn't quick enough to get it piped into the cakes while it was still fluid?  Would warming it up and/or rebeating maybe help soften it?  Or reduce the proportion of sugar in the recipe?


Or maybe I should just buy a bigger injecting tip.  Sure, I could use another type of filling but I'm very curious about this stuff.  I pretty much understand meringue, but not with the corn syrup added.


BTW The recipe is dead easy in case anyone likes a marshmallow topping for their ice cream, and quick.



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CHandGreeson's picture

(post #63483, reply #1 of 44)

I've made that type of filing before, but spread it a la "whoopie pies." It was very thick, I can't imagine trying to pipe it.
The recipe came from King Arthur Flour, for whoopie pies, and the ingredients are:
Filling:
3/4 cup vegetable shortening
2 cups confectioners' sugar
2 egg whites
dash salt
1 teaspoon vanilla

(yeck!) All it calls to do is mix it and spread it.

Does this seem more maleable than yours?

edited to add that I just saw the heated syrup - apparently, I can't read before 7 in the morning. I guess my thoughts were that other recipes call for a thick filling...But I would think that lessening the amount of beating would make it easier to use.


Edited 3/28/2005 7:29 am ET by CHandGreeson

KitchenWitch's picture

(post #63483, reply #2 of 44)

I once won a contest with a Kitty Litter Cake.

The place jill and I used to work would have great employee parties for the holidays, and there was always a dessert contest.
I made the kitty litter cake for the halloween party and won a nice prize.
Only problem was, nobody wanted to eat the cake! (can't say I blame them. It looked pretty ugh! authentic.)


Are you injecting from the side, or from the bottom, like a real Twinkie? they actually have three injection spots on the bottom of the, er, cake.


~RuthAnn

~RuthAnn

Adele's picture

(post #63483, reply #4 of 44)

Okay, so I'm curious:


http://www.fabulousfoods.com/recipes/dessert/cakes/kittylittercake.html


But, but, it's SUPPOSED to taste like that!

But, but, it's SUPPOSED to taste like that!

assibams's picture

(post #63483, reply #5 of 44)

I hope you are ashamed of yourself, you made me look ;-) How totally gross!


Be yourself. Everyone else is already taken.

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MadMom's picture

(post #63483, reply #6 of 44)

Yuck!  Something only a young boy could like, right?



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assibams's picture

(post #63483, reply #7 of 44)

Ian declined less than politely when I offered to make him that cake for his upcoming birthday. But then, 13 is too old for childish stuff, I suppose. I'll try Colin's reaction next.


Be yourself. Everyone else is already taken.

"A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort."
Herm Albright

Jillsifer's picture

(post #63483, reply #8 of 44)

Not at all. RuthAnn is too modest--our bosses SNARFED that cake. So did a few visiting senior executives. Do as you please with the concept that our bosses spent the afternoon eating . . . y'know.


Gillen's Grandmaw Clampett declined to eat his "camo" cake the year we did the GI Joe birthday party because the various shades of greens and browns weren't quite delicate enough for her ever-so-refined sensibilities. This was the same birthday at which she asked me if I didn't wish I'd had a GIRL so I could make a pretty pink cake with sparkles and ballerinas. The cake DID look pretty gnarly but was an enormous success with the birthday boy. (Oh, and no, I didn't kill her but maybe I should have!)

Christmas is the season for kindling the fire of hospitality in the hall, the genial flame of charity in the heart.

-- Washington Irving

KitchenWitch's picture

(post #63483, reply #9 of 44)

of course the bosses ate it. all the regular folk were afraid of it.


oh yes, pretty pink cakes with sparkles and ballerinas.
Guess she never met my daughter who asked for a shark cake with bloody teeth.


~RuthAnn

~RuthAnn

Jillsifer's picture

(post #63483, reply #10 of 44)

She NEEDS to meet your daughter--she NEEDS to be blasted out of her Victorian-recamier narrow-mindedness and her canned, processed ideas about what boys and girls are and are not and I can't think of a better messenger than Natalie--beautiful, charming, flirty, and not the least bit foofy. D*mnit.


(NOT that I would actually wish the high-pitched pinkie extender on Natalie but you know what I mean . . . )


Edited 3/28/2005 1:57 pm ET by jillsifer

Christmas is the season for kindling the fire of hospitality in the hall, the genial flame of charity in the heart.

-- Washington Irving

MadMom's picture

(post #63483, reply #14 of 44)

I should meet her...bet she's never met a female Petroleum Reservoir Engineer.  Of course, I would have to practice extending my pinky just so.



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Jillsifer's picture

(post #63483, reply #15 of 44)

You mean LADY engineer, right? Sister professional to LADY lawyer, LADY accountant, LADY whatever . . .


Honestly, have you ever known someone who wears ignorance and lack of education as a sort of badge--something to brag about? And I don't mean the refreshing charm of someone saying, without pretense, "I'm afraid I don't know a thing about wine, so maybe you can help me." I mean (tilt your chin up and stick out your chest) "Well, I never had any of that college stuff so I can't really be bothered to know about xxxxxxxxxxxxxx."


PROMISE me you'll come to Gillen's graduation, wedding . . . PLEASE?


We'll extend our pinkies and use "claaaaaassssseeeee" in sentences a lot!


 

Christmas is the season for kindling the fire of hospitality in the hall, the genial flame of charity in the heart.

-- Washington Irving

MadMom's picture

(post #63483, reply #16 of 44)

Well, I must admit that my first job out of college was with IBM, as a "systems service girl" (everyone knew that if God wanted me to be an engineer, I would have been a male, and of course, there were no female salesmen.)  I'll gladly come to Gillen's wedding, and we can stick our pinkies out, say "classsssseeeee" to everyone, and generally be obnoxious.  We can fit right in!



Not One More Day!
Not One More Dime! Not One More Life! Not One More Lie!

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Jillsifer's picture

(post #63483, reply #19 of 44)

And we have to act REALLY pretentious and forget about etiquette, grace, elegance, anything that's REAL, okay?

Christmas is the season for kindling the fire of hospitality in the hall, the genial flame of charity in the heart.

-- Washington Irving

MadMom's picture

(post #63483, reply #20 of 44)

Well, dahhhhllllin', y'all knows I am not about ahhhhnything real, don't you?


Edited to say that I can always stop by and spend $12.95 and pick up a 3-carat diamond ring to wear for the big occasion!  (Would that impress them?  I'm sure they would never guess it wasn't real!)




Not One More Day!
Not One More Dime! Not One More Life! Not One More Lie!

End the Occupation of Iraq -- Bring the Troops Home Now!

And Take Care of Them When They Get Here!


Edited 3/28/2005 6:04 pm ET by MadMom

paretsky's picture

(post #63483, reply #17 of 44)

Well, my young boy will, G-d willing, never get one of those cakes. Eeeeww. It's right up there with Amy's chocolate confection from some weeks back.

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MadMom's picture

(post #63483, reply #18 of 44)

Twinkies are bad enough, but my younger DD went through a stage where all she wanted for snacks were Lil Debbie cakes, and I swear, those are the vilest creations on earth.  Lock me in a room with Twinkies any day over those things.



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ghcook's picture

(post #63483, reply #39 of 44)

I once made the kitty litter cake for a veterianary friend's new clinic open house.  It was the perfect venue and the expressions were priceless when we'd walk through the lobby, scoop out the treats and eat them.  :  )

sommersu's picture

(post #63483, reply #40 of 44)

What is this kitty litter cake..you've got my curiosity going...I just cleaned my kitties kitty litter!

paretsky's picture

(post #63483, reply #41 of 44)

Then you really, REALLY don't want to know. (But if you're curious, there's a link somewhere in this thread)

Whenever I feel blue, I start breathing again.

"Light the lamp, not the rat! Light the lamp, not the rat!!"
Rizzo the Rat, A Muppet Christmas Carol

sommersu's picture

(post #63483, reply #43 of 44)

Found the link...amazing what people can come up with!

Risottogirl's picture

(post #63483, reply #11 of 44)

Kitty Litter Cake


You wouldn't still have that recipe would you :)


Edited to say: Sorry I skipped ahead!



I was 32 when I started cooking; up until then, I just ate
Julia Child


Edited 3/28/2005 2:56 pm ET by RISOTTOGIRL

Water is a great ingredient to cook with, it has such a neutral flavor - Bobby Flay

TracyK's picture

(post #63483, reply #12 of 44)

Check message 5 of this thread. :-)

Risottogirl's picture

(post #63483, reply #13 of 44)

Thanks Tracy! That is what I get for skipping ahead :)


Hilarious that the recipe has to specify a NEW litter pan and a NEW litter scooper  LOL



I was 32 when I started cooking; up until then, I just ate
Julia Child


Edited 3/28/2005 2:58 pm ET by RISOTTOGIRL

Water is a great ingredient to cook with, it has such a neutral flavor - Bobby Flay

BoofyQ's picture

(post #63483, reply #3 of 44)

I've never actually eaten a Twinkie, so I don't know for sure... but I think on FoodTV's FoodFinds show, I saw them injecting the filling from the bottom/flat side? So you'd have maybe three injection points across the length of the cake, instead of just one (or two) at the end(s).

I could be thinking of the cupcakes though, which then get covered up in frosting so you can't see the holes.

I think your competition sounds like fun! :-)

Nancy

MichaelPB's picture

(post #63483, reply #21 of 44)

On the twinkie end, I would slike in some sort of straw/tube and pull it out as you squeeze in the filling. Or slide in a knife, turn it sideways to force open the opening and poor in the filling but that will make it a three handed job.

On the gross food thread, I once did hotdogs for St. Patricks Day. I love doing hotdogs because I have this '70s shishkabob maker that cooks hotdogs really well. Anyway, I went to my bakery and had them make me green hotdog buns, I then used food coloring to make both the mustard and sourkraut green. At the time you couldn't get green ketchup. I never could figure a way to make the hotdogs green though.

MadMom's picture

(post #63483, reply #22 of 44)

Hmm...I think I have some green ones in my refrigerator, LOL.



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Risottogirl's picture

(post #63483, reply #23 of 44)

I was horrified the first time I saw green (and purple) ketchup (of course, the red kind sort of horrifies me too) and NEON colors of Nilla wafers.


Deja vu. Did we already discuss this along time ago?


 


I was 32 when I started cooking; up until then, I just ate
Julia Child

Water is a great ingredient to cook with, it has such a neutral flavor - Bobby Flay

Jillsifer's picture

(post #63483, reply #24 of 44)

Do I have a sister in ketchup antipathy?


I bought my son--the freakish ketchup-eating mutant--some of the green and the purple a few years ago but I really had to leave the room when he ate it.

Christmas is the season for kindling the fire of hospitality in the hall, the genial flame of charity in the heart.

-- Washington Irving

lwj2's picture

(post #63483, reply #25 of 44)

I bought my son--the freakish ketchup-eating mutant--some of the green and the purple a few years ago but I really had to leave the room when he ate it.
**************

Y'know what they say, better living through chemistry.

Seriously, though, home made ketchup is pretty good. Some of the older cookbooks from the 30s and 40s have receipes.

Leon Jester
Leon
Jillsifer's picture

(post #63483, reply #26 of 44)

I know, and the wonderful folks here have been SOOO generous to share ketchup recipes, and I SWEAR by all that's holy that THIS year I will absolutely make that poor boy of mine some homemade ketchup. Honest. No, really. I WILL!

Christmas is the season for kindling the fire of hospitality in the hall, the genial flame of charity in the heart.

-- Washington Irving