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courgette's picture

So today my baby boy is 17. I am making the cake on the current cover and of course I have no gelatin, only sheets. I googled and it says it takes 3-4 sheets to equal 1 pkg. I need three pkg for the marshmellows. Can I use the sheets or do I need to haul a** to the store?


Have never used the sheets, not have I ever made marshmellows.....


Mo


Edited 11/17/2009 9:30 am ET by courgette

Risottogirl's picture

(post #65265, reply #1 of 28)

You can generally use the sheets and powder interchangeably but you do have to soak the sheets in cold water and then wring them out before dissolving them in the hot liquid.


I use mostly powdered when I am here and sheets when in France because that's what is more readily available in each place. I do like sheets better tho.



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Edited 11/17/2009 10:21 am ET by Risottogirl

Water is a great ingredient to cook with, it has such a neutral flavor - Bobby Flay

Glenys's picture

(post #65265, reply #2 of 28)

I used sheets the other day; better results as always. I Have you made the recipe before? I was working out of a book for class and the ratios made a rather "commercial" rather than artisanal marshmallow.
Did you know the Egyptians ate marshmallows?

Marcia's picture

(post #65265, reply #5 of 28)

Did you know the Egyptians ate marshmallows?

What a charming and esoteric piece of information. Were marshmallows found in Egyptian tombs? Of course, if some were found, we don't know that they actually ate them. They could have been smart and used them strictly as decoration.

Ozark's picture

(post #65265, reply #6 of 28)

http://www.woodlandfairyacres.com/historyofmarshmallows.php

 


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Marcia's picture

(post #65265, reply #7 of 28)

Very interesting...thanks for the link. :)

Gretchen's picture

(post #65265, reply #12 of 28)

Or building blocks for the pyramids?  ;o)  Homemade are square, you know.

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Jillsifer's picture

(post #65265, reply #14 of 28)

Homemade are square, you know.


Or cookie-cuttered into ghosts, bats, pumpkins, trees, stars . . . ;-)


This "shooting star" makes a nice marshmallow at Christmastime, with a little "edible glitter" for those who can stand it.



A former in-law asked me to do the Holy Family in marshmallows. I kept my composure but was able to decline, citing lack of Virgin Mary and Jesus cutters. Whew!



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Adele's picture

(post #65265, reply #15 of 28)

Do you spray the heck out of the cookie cutters for this?  I can imagine all kinds of frustration trying to get them out of the cutters.


 


But, but, it's SUPPOSED to taste like that!

But, but, it's SUPPOSED to taste like that!

Jillsifer's picture

(post #65265, reply #16 of 28)

There's a lot of split-second timing, and no small amount of profanity, involved. Yes, I spray heck out of them AND I try to have them warm and completely dry before I do so.


 



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Edited 11/19/2009 2:35 pm by Jillsifer

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(post #65265, reply #17 of 28)

Well, now you're going to have to make them:


Nativity Scene cookie cutter set


Nativity Story Cookie Cutter Set



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Jillsifer's picture

(post #65265, reply #19 of 28)

Oh, you're a LOT of help.


"Care for a gingerbread Holy Mother, Aunt Clare?"


"Uncle Bill, can I offer you a delectable marshmallow Joseph?"



Gawd. Staying on decent terms with the former in-laws is fine, but there are limits.


PS: Is that not a Star of David in the "Nativity" assortment? And . . . ummm . . . is that not a gaffe of . . . well . . . Biblical proportions? Somebody'd better tell their Chinese manufacturer at least the basics of the story.




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Edited 11/19/2009 4:45 pm by Jillsifer

Christmas is the season for kindling the fire of hospitality in the hall, the genial flame of charity in the heart.

-- Washington Irving

nexus's picture

(post #65265, reply #27 of 28)

Well they WERE Jewish.

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Gretchen's picture

(post #65265, reply #28 of 28)

But I think she's got it.  I don't think the Star of David was much in use when Jesus was born.  I'll surely bow to MUCH more knowledgeable of the faithful, if I am incorrect, however.


The "Shield of David" was apparently first used in the 3rd century, if I recall reading that


Star of David or Shield of David (Magen David in Hebrew, מָגֵן דָּוִד with nikkud or מגן דוד without, academically transcribed Māḡēn Dāwīḏ by Biblical Hebrew linguists, [maˈɡen daˈvid] in Modern Hebrew and Mogein Dovid [ˈmɔɡeɪn ˈdɔvid] or Mogen Dovid [ˈmɔɡen ˈdɔvid] in Ashkenazi Hebrew and Yiddish) is a generally recognized symbol of Jewish identity and Judaism. It is named after King David of ancient Israel; and its earliest known communal usage began in the Middle Ages[citation needed], alongside the more ancient symbol of the menorah. Geometrically it is the hexagram.


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paretsky's picture

(post #65265, reply #23 of 28)

You wacky gentiles and your holiday accoutrements...

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Gretchen's picture

(post #65265, reply #24 of 28)

GREAT idea. Do you cool/spread them on a cookie sheet?  For thinness?

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Jillsifer's picture

(post #65265, reply #26 of 28)

Do you cool/spread them on a cookie sheet?  For thinness?


Never have done, simply because it didn't cross my mind. But I might try it this year.



Where are the songs of Spring? Ay, where are they?

  Think not of them, thou hast thy music too



Christmas is the season for kindling the fire of hospitality in the hall, the genial flame of charity in the heart.

-- Washington Irving

Maedl's picture

(post #65265, reply #3 of 28)

I much prefer the sheets--they don't clump as easily as the powder does.

I don't wring out the sheets, though, I just pull them between two fingers and it works very well.

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Biscuit's picture

(post #65265, reply #4 of 28)

I ONLY use sheets, so yes, you can.


When Max and I make marshmallows in December - I'm teaching him to make them and he's giving them for gifts - we will use sheet gelatin.


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Jillsifer's picture

(post #65265, reply #13 of 28)

Tangent, tangent, tangent . . .


When Max and I make marshmallows in December - I'm teaching him to make them and he's giving them for gifts - we will use sheet gelatin.


Doncha just LOVE the effects of parenthood on all your previous "never" and "always" statements?!?!? I'm LMAO at the idea of YOU with marshmallows! ;-)


 



Where are the songs of Spring? Ay, where are they?

  Think not of them, thou hast thy music too



Christmas is the season for kindling the fire of hospitality in the hall, the genial flame of charity in the heart.

-- Washington Irving

Jean's picture

(post #65265, reply #18 of 28)

LOL. I'm waiting for the day she gets turned on to lima beans.


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Jillsifer's picture

(post #65265, reply #20 of 28)

Betcha my last dollar that if Max fell in love with lima beans, she'd be happily tweaking everyone's favorite lima-bean recipes!


(The things we do for love . . .)



Where are the songs of Spring? Ay, where are they?

  Think not of them, thou hast thy music too



Christmas is the season for kindling the fire of hospitality in the hall, the genial flame of charity in the heart.

-- Washington Irving

Adele's picture

(post #65265, reply #25 of 28)

(The things we do for love . . .)


I put walnuts in brownies for Fiona.  (I also didn't eat any- LOL)


But, but, it's SUPPOSED to taste like that!

But, but, it's SUPPOSED to taste like that!

Biscuit's picture

(post #65265, reply #21 of 28)

I DESPISE marshmallows. But Max is really interested in cooking now, and whatever I have to do to encourage that I will do!

I will admit - the homemade ones are far better than the storebought ones, which are vile.

"When a stupid man is doing something he is ashamed of, he always declares that it is his duty."  - George Bernard Shaw

"When a stupid man is doing something he is ashamed of, he always declares that it is his duty."  - George Bernard Shaw

Jillsifer's picture

(post #65265, reply #22 of 28)

I know, sweetie, but we HAVE to yank your chain just a little, don't we?


Where are the songs of Spring? Ay, where are they?

  Think not of them, thou hast thy music too



Christmas is the season for kindling the fire of hospitality in the hall, the genial flame of charity in the heart.

-- Washington Irving

Adele's picture

(post #65265, reply #8 of 28)

Have fun!  I made it over the weekend and it is incredibly chocolaty!


Remember that the frosting and the marshmallows need at least 2 hours to set.


You might want to spray the aluminum foil for the marshmallows, I had a heck of a time getting them out.


(I was quite impressd that I had 3 9" cake pans- LOL)


But, but, it's SUPPOSED to taste like that!

But, but, it's SUPPOSED to taste like that!

courgette's picture

(post #65265, reply #9 of 28)

Thanks for the info. I realized I needed cream so went to the store anyway and got the powder. The leaf stuff is quite pricey, at least what I had. But now I am intrigued so will try it. Just got the marsmellows made . Was watching the thermometer for ever so long to get to soft ball stage and then before it even quite reached that point, I had caramel!


Had to start over and was determined not to go back to store so used half maple syrup and half golden corn syrup. They are a nice creamy colour. The white syrup can be hard to find here. They whip up so nicely that I think they will be fun to try in different flavours.


The icing is in the freezer and the cakes are done, although they sank a bit in the middle. Strange. Started to rise up around the rim and then just didn;t rise anymore. Never had a cake do that before. But not enough that it will matter when iced. What a ton of calories though! Good thing it is for teenage boys......


Mo

Adele's picture

(post #65265, reply #10 of 28)

Whew, mine sunk too.

But, but, it's SUPPOSED to taste like that!

But, but, it's SUPPOSED to taste like that!

courgette's picture

(post #65265, reply #11 of 28)

Cake is finished except for heaping the marshmellows on top. Makes a nice tall cake and I used all the icing. Must be a first for me. I either don't have enough or have too much. Tastes yummy, at least the finger licking samples! Will get  a picture later.


Mo