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Recently I have seen several baking recipes that require buttermilk, but are not specific about "low fat" or full fat or what. When I look in the store, all I can find is low fat or no fat.  Can these be used with the same result when baking ?


Thanks for any help

Gretchen's picture

(post #64655, reply #1 of 81)

Always use it myself. I don't even know if full fat buttermilk can be found in our city.

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mrsq's picture

(post #64655, reply #2 of 81)

I ALWAYS buy the fully loaded MAYFIELD BUTTERMILK...in the yellow carton...it's really great, even if it does cost more.

LuciaK's picture

(post #64655, reply #6 of 81)

Hooray for full-fat buttermilk! I buy it whenever I can find it. I think it makes better biscuits.

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Gretchen's picture

(post #64655, reply #7 of 81)

Ummmmm, that would be a "duh".!!!  BIG <G>

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LuciaK's picture

(post #64655, reply #8 of 81)

ok, ok. Stating the obvious. More fat makes everything better.


Hey, do you know what those little orange flecks are in whole buttermilk?


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Tess's picture

(post #64655, reply #9 of 81)

They are supposed to be butter. Originally buttermilk was the liquid you'd get after you whipped the cream into butter. You get to the point where the milk solids separate from the liquid. That liquid is butter-milk. Buttermilk is now a cultured product. Like yogurt, labne, kifer.

Scroll down to the commenter "caboose" to read about her adventures with buttermilk.
http://lizjohnson.lohudblogs.com/2007/02/23/wine-dinner-restaurant-x/

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thecooktoo's picture

(post #64655, reply #10 of 81)

I quit buying buttermilk several years ago because I would  need a quarter or half cup and ended up throwing out the rest of the pint or quart or whatever size was available.  And it was never available in half or quarter pints.


I now use the SACO dried buttermilk that you buy in the baking section of the supermarket.  You don't reconstitute it, you just add the powder to your dry items, then add water to the recipe equal to what the recipe calls for in buttermilk.


Works great, and no half boxes of buttermilk saved to throw away later.


Jim

LuciaK's picture

(post #64655, reply #11 of 81)

I used to be very frustrated with throwing out buttermilk, also. I've noticed that whole buttermilk tends to have a further-away expiration date than low-fat buttermilk. When I need to use up buttermilk, I make buttermilk chess pie or banana bread with buttermilk. I wonder if buttermilk could be frozen?

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thecooktoo's picture

(post #64655, reply #13 of 81)

Never tried it, I have too many other things I am storing in the freezer until I get around to throwing them out!  That would just be one more.


Jim

Aberwacky's picture

(post #64655, reply #14 of 81)

Yes, I've frozen it--it separates a little bit, but a vigorous shaking seems to fix that.

Leigh

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Marcia's picture

(post #64655, reply #15 of 81)

You could freeze it in those silicone muffin pans.;) Great tip, and congratulations, BTW!

Aberwacky's picture

(post #64655, reply #16 of 81)

Thanks! Quite a little thrill to win!

Leigh

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Marcia's picture

(post #64655, reply #17 of 81)

I should think so...didn't you have a tip printed once before? I'm sure you've had many that should have been used!

Aberwacky's picture

(post #64655, reply #18 of 81)

Nope, first one. And it was submitted more than 1-1/2 years ago.

The prize is nice, too.

Leigh

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Marcia's picture

(post #64655, reply #19 of 81)

I haven't even perused the issue throughly, but will get it now and see your prize.

Edited to say a year and a half is a LONG time.


Edited 3/17/2008 11:04 am ET by Marcia

Marcia's picture

(post #64655, reply #20 of 81)

Nice prize -- the cutting board and rolling pins should look good in your beautiful kitchen.

LuciaK's picture

(post #64655, reply #22 of 81)

You should get a commission on silicon muffin pan sales - I wouldn't buy one for regular muffins (have too many pans that already do that job), but I will consider buying a silicon pan to freeze stock or buttermilk in.

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Gretchen's picture

(post #64655, reply #23 of 81)

Metal pans work too.

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Aberwacky's picture

(post #64655, reply #25 of 81)

Yes, but having done both, I can attest that it's much tougher to get the frozen disks out of a metal pan than it is from the silicone, even if you put the bottom of the metal pan in hot water. 


Besides, I had silicone pans I didn't like for muffins, and this was a great second life for them!


Leigh


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Gretchen's picture

(post #64655, reply #27 of 81)

Oh, I totally agree about finding the second use for it, and think your tip is super. And it would be easier to get out. BUT, I'm just don't have them, and aren't buying them, and have done it in metal pans.

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cookie1's picture

(post #64655, reply #24 of 81)

Would you be able to post your banana bread recipe. I am fond of buttermilk.

Cheryl


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LuciaK's picture

(post #64655, reply #28 of 81)

I found this recipe in a cookbook from Pleasant Hill, the Shaker community in Kentucky. Appropriately, it's a simple bread, not gussied up with spices or nuts or chocolate, although I guess it could be a blank canvas for experimentation. I usually double it, to use up more bananas and buttermilk. The instruction for adding the leavening is unusual - first add one cup of flour, then stir baking soda and salt into the remaining flour before adding to the batter.

 

Best Ever Banana Bread

 

1/2 cup butter

1 cup granulated sugar

2 eggs

2 bananas, mashed, to equal 1 cup

2 cups all purpose flour

1/3 cup buttermilk

1/2 tsp salt

1 tsp baking soda

 

Cream butter and sugar in bowl with electric mixer. Beat in eggs and bananas. Add one cup of the flour and half of the buttermilk alternately. Add salt and soda to remaining flour. Stir in second flour mixture and end with remaining buttermilk. Turn into well-greased 9 X 5 loaf pan. Bake at 325 for one hour (per cookbook, mine take up to 1 hour and 15 minutes to bake).

 

Lucy

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Gretchen's picture

(post #64655, reply #29 of 81)

I think this is pretty much my mom's recipe from long ago. I would have to add some nuts.

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LuciaK's picture

(post #64655, reply #30 of 81)

I'm a purist. I save nuts for the granola.

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cookie1's picture

(post #64655, reply #31 of 81)

Thanks! I assume you use two pans when doubling the recipe.

Cheryl


It is nice to be important, but it is more important to be nice!

Cheryl

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LuciaK's picture

(post #64655, reply #35 of 81)

Oops! Yes, use two pans, by all means.


 Looks like we're in for some more stormy weather in GA today. It doesn't looks so great out my window right now. I think my cherry tree will lose all its blooms today.


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cookie1's picture

(post #64655, reply #46 of 81)

Thanks. I was somewhat apprehensive today because I work on the 23rd floor but all went well. I was also very happy that there wasn't any rain to slow the commute to a snail's pace at 5:00.


Cheryl


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LuciaK's picture

(post #64655, reply #47 of 81)

This buttermilk discussion reminded me that I had a half-gallon of Mayfield buttermilk in my fridge (exp. 3/17), so I made Crescent Dragonwagon's Skillet Sizzled Cornbread (from Dairy Hollow House Soup & Bread Cookbook & also FC) to go with the bean soup.


The Dairy Hollow House book specifies Bulgarian-style buttermilk. What is that? Is it similar to whole buttermilk? I seem to remember references to it Mollie Katzen's books (which have been on the high shelf for a long, long time), which makes me think it's a health food store item.


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Aberwacky's picture

(post #64655, reply #50 of 81)

You might be interested to know that Crescent Dragonwagon has a new cookbook out: The Cornbread Gospels. http://www.amazon.com/Cornbread-Gospels-Crescent-Dragonwagon/dp/0761119167

Back when she lived in Arkansas and ran Dairy Hollow House, I stayed there on my honeymoon with my ex-husband. Delightful woman, and the food. . . .oh myyyy.

Leigh

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LuciaK's picture

(post #64655, reply #52 of 81)

Lucky, lucky girl. I have the Dairy Hollow House cookbook somewhere on my shelf. I love the three page description for The Salad. I want the Cornbread Gospels book. Is it all cornbread recipes or does it include things to make with cornbread?

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