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What's for Thanksgiving this year?

tcurda's picture

I hope this isn't too early to start a discussion on Thanksgiving dinner.

We're going to my DSIL (across the back yard from us) yet again for the traditional family TD dinner. My DBIL will make his braised/steamed dual turkeys (he calls it roasted, but it's really more of the former), bagged bread-cube dressing moistened with water, whipped potatoes with ranch dressing, canned french-style green bean casserole with canned mushroom soup and canned crispy onion topping, boiled-to-death cauliflower topped with American cheese slices (done early enough so that the cheese melts and becomes a slurry with the water that came out of the cauliflower), heated up frozen corn, bottled gravy, canned cranberry jelly, and Pillsbury Doughboy biscuits.

I'm going to break tradition and actually bring dessert, which will be the FC pumpkin/streusel tart, and I'm going to attempt Chiqui's carmel/apple pie (with a test-bake before-hand for practice).

DW and I will have a TD-style Sunday dinner either the week before or after, for both DDs and their SOs along with DMIL. I want to try a fresh turkey for the first time, and another first, I want to try Mean's apple brine on it. I'm researching dressings, and I'll make a pan gravy similar to the one in FC #74. The roasted Yukon Gold potatoes from FC awhile back might also be done; these always go over well here. For veggies I want to try Tracy's garlic sprouts, and another I'm still deciding on for those that absolutely don't like sprouts. A nice cranberry/orange relish, and maybe some home-made biscuits (and definitely home-made bread) will round things out.

I'm still working out what to have for before-hand, and for dessert.

Sorry for the long post... :-)

Tom aka tomcatt

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Tom aka tomcatt

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Gretchen's picture

(post #57240, reply #21 of 135)

But the point is that she might be able to be helped rather than just going into oblivion.

Gretchen

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shywoodlandcreature's picture

(post #57240, reply #22 of 135)

boy, can I sympathize with your dilemma! Sounds like your MIL and my mother might have been separated at birth - including the home gone to shambles, and the unsafe, unfit food in the refrigerator.

MadMom's picture

(post #57240, reply #23 of 135)

I can so relate.  My mom was going downhill for quite a while, and we just refused to accept it.  She didn't cook, so that was not a problem.  Her normal day consisted of morning coffee with Pillsbury cinnamon rolls, lunch at the local cafeteria, and chocolate candy for dinner.  Once AntiCook and I went over and cleaned out her refrigerator and pantry.  There was stuff in the pantry which probably could have brought in a fortune on eBay...pudding mix with a purple price stamp showing five cents, stuff manufactured in "New York 5, New York" etc.  We loaded up a pickup truck literally to the brim with junk and took it to the dump.  I won't even talk about what we found in the refrigerator...particularly in those neat little drawers meant to hold leftovers.  "What is this?  Was it always furry and green?"  It's really sad, and it's doubly hard when people refuse to admit there's a problem and refuse to get help.  Hopefully, I will still be lucid enough to realize I'm losing it, if that time comes.  If not, I hope my girls are strong enough to drag me somewhere for help. 



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NMR's picture

(post #57240, reply #31 of 135)

I understand your dilemma with you Mother-in-law, we have been trying to get my Father-in-law to consider moving into a retirement community also.  He doesn't get hostile but he has come up with 1001 excuses why he shouldn't; it certainly becomes a delicate balance.  Good luck and I pray she'll change her mind.

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SallyBR1's picture

(post #57240, reply #32 of 135)

This is so sad...

if she trusts one particular doctor, maybe someone who has treated her for many years, maybe you could have some kind of conversation with the physician before taking her in (with some excuse like a check up or some treatment for the "aches and pains" she admits suffering from) - and see if he/she can talk your MIL into doing some tests.

It is a very sad situation indeed.

MadMom's picture

(post #57240, reply #33 of 135)

I tried this.  Spoke with Mother's doctor privately, requested that he subtly bring up some of our concerns.  Got her in there, and the doctor looked at me, then at Mother, then said "Your daughter thinks you have a problem with..."  I could have killed him.



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deejeh's picture

(post #57240, reply #34 of 135)

It's really a terrible situation...we tried and tried to get my father to go see a doctor, and, though he was a thoughtful man, conscious of his health, he adamantly refused.  I believe it was fear that stopped him.  He had always depended on the power of his mind, and losing that power was just too terrifying for him.  Unfortunately, it meant that by the time we were able to get him to see someone, his dementia was so far advanced that treatment was useless. 


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MadMom's picture

(post #57240, reply #35 of 135)

I know exactly what you mean.  Although my mother was never an intellectual person, it was still sad to see her regress so.  I often felt that I lost my mother at least four or five years before her body finally gave up.  Terribly sad.  There's nothing more lonely than seeing someone you love turn into a mere shell of their former self.



Not One More Day!
Not One More Dime! Not One More Life! Not One More Lie!

End the Occupation of Iraq -- Bring the Troops Home Now!

And Take Care of Them When They Get Here!

deejeh's picture

(post #57240, reply #36 of 135)

I often felt that I lost my mother at least four or five years before her body finally gave up.


That's why I really hope when my time comes it takes the form of a massive mycardial infarct or an equally massive truck.  Life is all about quality, not length, I believe.


deej

tcurda's picture

(post #57240, reply #37 of 135)

"Life is all about quality, not length, I believe."

You betcha, deej!

If ever this cancer gets to the point that I'm incapacitated, in uncontrollable pain, or about to wind up on some sort of life support, I'll be checking out on my own terms. DW and I have discussed this long and hard and we are in total agreement on this. I don't want to live out my last days/weeks/years that way, and she doesn't want to see me live that way.

On a lighter note, I'm thinking of trying the charlottes in the recent FC, in anticipation of doing them for the early/late TD dinner. I also thing I'm going to make MadMom's cauliflower mash.

I might also try doing a french onion soup as a first course. I've never made it before; yet another thing to practice before doing it for real. :-)

Tom aka tomcatt

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Smile - People will wonder what you're up to.


Edited 11/8/2005 7:53 pm by tcurda


Tom aka tomcatt

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deejeh's picture

(post #57240, reply #40 of 135)

I salute you, Tom.  Your attitude to life is inspiring.


Onion soup, huh?  What a great idea.


deej

Lee's picture

(post #57240, reply #41 of 135)

Do you have a recipe for MadMom's cauliflower mash?  I had potatoes that had been mashed with cauliflower the other night, and it was delicious.


I ordered a heritage turkey from WF today.  I've not had one before and am looking forward to trying it.  I've read they're much more flavorful than the birds we're accustomed to eating.


Edited 11/8/2005 9:03 pm ET by lee

MadMom's picture

(post #57240, reply #42 of 135)

Just cook the cauliflower (I nuke it, to be honest, but have also roasted it) and put it into a food processor and puree it.  The South Beach diet recommends you add some "I can't believe it's not butter" and fat free half and half.  You can do as you wish in that department.  S&P to taste...it's really pretty simple.



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Not One More Dime! Not One More Life! Not One More Lie!

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Lee's picture

(post #57240, reply #43 of 135)

Thanks!  Sounds good.

tcurda's picture

(post #57240, reply #45 of 135)

What Mom said!!! :-)

I'm going to roast mine...

Tom aka tomcatt

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Wolvie's picture

(post #57240, reply #48 of 135)

mashed cauliflower from roasted beginnings is excellent. I add a bit of chicken stock, butter, puree the whole thing and enjoy. Toss some garlic cloves in to roast with the cauliflower and puree with the rest - major yum. S&P to taste, of course. :-)

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tcurda's picture

(post #57240, reply #50 of 135)

Mmmmm, the garlic is a great idea. I didn't think to do that, but it definitely will be added.

Thanks!!!

Tom aka tomcatt

Live today like there's no tomorrow.

Smile - People will wonder what you're up to.


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tcurda's picture

(post #57240, reply #127 of 135)

I'm figuring this can be made ahead and reheated on TD. I'm trying to get as much done ahead of time as I can, so that most of what I have to deal with is the turkey and dressing, and just heat up the rest.

I do think that TracyK's brussel sprouts will have to be done that day.

Tom aka tomcatt

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Smile - People will wonder what you're up to.


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avak123's picture

(post #57240, reply #128 of 135)

Does anyone have the recipe, from a few years back in FC, for an uncooked cranberry relish with crystallized ginger, cranberries and orange?


I have "misplaced" my copy.


Thanks.


Amy

Wolvie's picture

(post #57240, reply #133 of 135)

I have reheated the mashed cauliflower (left over) and it works great.

If, 2 1/2 years in, you don't control the only road linking your military airport to your headquarters, you don't control much of anything


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avak123's picture

(post #57240, reply #134 of 135)

I was searching for dinner roll recipes and came across a potato roll recipe posted by Chi Chi...sounds yummy. I would like to prepare them ahead and am tossed between baking off and freezing or trying to refrigerate the dough for a few days and baking when I pull out the bird.


Any thoughts are appreciated.


Amy


 

Gretchen's picture

(post #57240, reply #38 of 135)

Unfortunately, it meant that by the time we were able to get him to see someone, his dementia was so far advanced that treatment was useless. 


How can I say strongly enough that in this day and age, an early diagnosis of any dementia and especially of Alzheimer's is the best time to have it.  Please do not ignore this advice.


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deejeh's picture

(post #57240, reply #39 of 135)

You're absolutely right, but it's a question of how to get a person to see a doctor for a diagnosis.  Short of dragging them into the doctor's office kicking and screaming, there's often no way.  Believe me, one of the most painful experiences a person can have is dealing with someone who, for whatever reason, refuses to be diagnosed or treated.


deej

Wolvie's picture

(post #57240, reply #5 of 135)

turkey, for sure. :-)


I'm thinking of a heritage bird this year - I'm going to be near a farm in NC that raises them in a few days, so I just might stop and gt one, bring it home and freeze it. They don't ship, unfortunately. I'm leary of the freezing, but - I may make an exception. To order the fresh ones delivered is way over 100 bucks, from the places that do mail order. To pick it up at the farm in NC is 3.50 per pound. Pretty big difference.


OTT - and the traditional TG special mash po's, cranberry /garlic chutney, and pumpkin pie I haven't decided.


If, 2 1/2 years in, you don't control the only road linking your military airport to your headquarters, you don't control much of anything


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Cissy's picture

(post #57240, reply #7 of 135)

cranberry /garlic chutney


oooh, please share the recipe.  Garlic is one of my favorite food groups.

Wolvie's picture

(post #57240, reply #11 of 135)

http://forums.prospero.com/tp-cookstalk/messages?msg=22202.52


Here's where I posted it for Jean - it's really good stuff. :-)


If, 2 1/2 years in, you don't control the only road linking your military airport to your headquarters, you don't control much of anything


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pamilyn's picture

(post #57240, reply #57 of 135)

Wolvie, did you try my cranberry rhubarb chutney? It's delish. Pamilyn

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Wolvie's picture

(post #57240, reply #58 of 135)

no Ma'am - no fresh rhubarb to be had around here - no preserves either. PLUS - I don't recall seeing the recipe - can you direct me to it? I'll save it for next spring. :-)

If, 2 1/2 years in, you don't control the only road linking your military airport to your headquarters, you don't control much of anything


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pamilyn's picture

(post #57240, reply #59 of 135)

I know it sounds weird, opposite seasons and all. I freeze cranberries in the fall and make a big batch for the year in the spring. If you can find frozen rhubarb you can make this for TD. Chef Robert said he didn't like rhubarb. I sent him and a jar and I changed his mind. I will see if I can find the link. Pamilyn

The purpose of Art is washing the dust of daily life off our souls

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pamilyn's picture

(post #57240, reply #60 of 135)

Wolvie, post # 22776.63  Pamilyn

The purpose of Art is washing the dust of daily life off our souls

The purpose of Art is washing the dust of daily life off our souls